Transformers Ongoing #17 Discussion SPOILERS

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  1. Sideswipe1954

    Sideswipe1954 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, Wow, Wow!!!

    Did I say Wow already?!

    I do not know whose macho shooting took me by surprise, Prime once he figured out Megatron's plan, or Jazz's at the end of the comic. There will be hell to pay for either or maybe both
     
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    That was a pretty awesome issue, they really set up the fact that Humans are a real treath to the Transformers and Jazz at the end wow , had a tough decision to make though so much pressure.

    As for Primes amazing sharpshooting, WOW, I literally went "Oh no he didn't, Right in front of megatron, he could not have been any cooler"

    Can't wait for the next issue. Really want to see how we get from the end of this to the preview image for 18
     
  3. King Henrik

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    i haven't really been a fan of the overall story since ongoing started, little bits here and there were good, but as whole i wasn't as in to it as the previous stuff... but the reveal of megaton's plan? is actually really awesome... it was kind of obvious where it was going, but they way he explained was just really sadistic and fitting for the character. brought a little flare to an otherwise typical conflict between him and prime.
     
  4. TfAnimatedfan

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    Prime blew off Soundwave's head. He blew his damn head off!!!
     
  5. 9.8m/s^2

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    I'm betting there's a cheat to that shot somewhere, though; I don't see Prime turning into a cold-blooded killer that fast. I'm guessing it has something to do with whatever Magnus is doing to Soundwave on page 11. The brothers evidently have something up their sleeve...
     
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    'Bout damned time, too.
    The cheat, unfortunately, was that apparently Soundwave was still alive. So, we get to continue to debate what Prime's code of ethics are based upon 1985's cartoon censorship and Sunbow's need to have the main villain appear in the next episode with some hair-brained scheme.

    Brawn re-iterated how much he was a bad-assed mo-fo... but for the context of what was happening in that scene at that time, I understand why he didn't go the extra inch and finish Starscream.

    Prime finally appeared to grow up and actually do what he needs to do...

    ... and while I was surprised at what prime did (rarely do I say "holy crap" out loud while reading a comic book)... Jazz's actions shocked me. I thought he was only gonna aim at the gun, but to vape the human? OUT OF CONTROLL!
     
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    Prime wouldn't be a cold blooded killer for that shot though. The Autobots and Decepticons are at WAR trying to kill each other. Furthermore he was doing it to save a squad of his troops so in my opinion it was more than justified.

    I will be curious to find out what Ultra Magnus was doing though...
     
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    Yeah. Soundwave is probably still kicking. But DDDAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUMMMMMMM!!!
     
  9. UltraMagnus3786

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    This for sure!

    Love Megatron's plan in this. Let the humans kill the autobots, then kill the humans and get his revenge. He's turning Prime's philosophy against him. Really well done. Also Jazz shooting that human... also very well done and very much unexpected. I'm SO glad the cover didn't give it away tho, I just thought he'd be mourning for a random human or for someone else on the battlefield. Glad this was still very much a surprise. Also, I like how Jazz was unable to tell the human was having doubts about killing the Autobots. The frame on 21 very much justifies his actions in a way. There will be repercussions for sure!

    Love the art-- altho it still resembles Don, the faces are great and I feel like the humans are better in close-ups too. Fancy line work pages 5, 6, 12, 14, 17... even the colors are looking better generally. My only problem is Jazz's very bland coloring. For a guy named Jazz, spruce him up a bit!

    Very good issue.
     
  10. G1Wheeljack

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    Really enjoyed this issue, Prime shooting Soundwave it going to take him out of the game for a while, but maybe he'll come back in black calling himself NEW Soundwave :lol . Jazz's actions are going to have huge repercussions I can tell. Do any of you think the officer would have pulled the trigger though?
     
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    it seemed like he was having some doubts from that one frame where you could see his eyes through his shades. his actions before that though indicate he was ready to pull the trigger...

    just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop, the world may never know...
     
  12. Tim Formas

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see Soundwave return with a different alt-mode. They've already changed Megatron from his "outdated", frowned-upon alt mode to a mode similar to that we've seen in recent incarnation (movie, Animated, Prime). Wouldn't be surprised to see Soundwave's alt mode be that featured in the live-action movies or in Prime. After all, the cassette player is another "outdated" mode.
     
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    They killed Ironhide... they ought to off Soundwave.
     
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    One dumb question: I forgot, why is Megatron is so powered up right now again?
     
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    Ironhide is alive and well on Cybertron. And micro-cassette recorders are still in wide use by journalists.
     
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    i think its a spawn shield. like in video games. when you die and come back you have a limited amount of time when you're NIGH INVINCIBLE
     
  17. UltraMagnus3786

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    :lolol  this made my week.
     
  18. Sideswipe1954

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    Look at when Unicron rebuilt Megatron into Galvatron. He went to Cybertron and blew Starscream to atoms, but never again used that ability or power. Maybe he had excess energy at the beginning of his rebuild, and then it will level off?
     
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    Since when?
     
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    Ummm... Soundwave and Shockwave- the Wave brothers- rebuilt him to be that way?