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Old 07-01-2009, 12:23 PM   #21
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Yea I think what was going on there is that each of the New Gods could use a body to be reborn in but they have to jump from body to body until they find one that works.
Either that or they just burned out human bodies because they're not designed to contain a New God's power. Like overloading a circuit.

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I suppose I could look this up on the Wikipedia, but what happened to Wally West?
Oddly enough...nothing. Basically, after nearly losing his children and wife, Wally decided to take some time off and spend it with his family. He's still in action as a member of the Titans, though.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:00 PM   #22
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No, it didn't. Wally always knew he was Barry's sidekick, and that he replaced Barry when he died. The first 75 or so issues of Wally's book deal very heavily with Wally's feeling of not being good enough to fill Barry's boots.

The only big Flash reality change was that Jay was Flash before Barry, not Flash on another Earth.

(Also, Barry didn't die on the cosmic treadmill. He died destryong the Anti-Monitor's cannon.)
Er... it's been a couple of decades.

I remember reading The Flash after the reboot and although Wally remembered that he had been Kid Flash and Barry Allen had been The Flash I seem to remember that everyone else thought Wally was always The Flash -after Jay that is. I remember the two of them meeting up.

I'm not saying I'm right -that's just the way I remembered it.

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Oddly enough...nothing. Basically, after nearly losing his children and wife, Wally decided to take some time off and spend it with his family. He's still in action as a member of the Titans, though.
So, what does he call himself when he is part of the Titans?
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:06 PM   #23
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Er... it's been a couple of decades.

I remember reading The Flash after the reboot and although Wally remembered that he had been Kid Flash and Barry Allen had been The Flash I seem to remember that everyone else thought Wally was always The Flash -after Jay that is. I remember the two of them meeting up.

I'm not saying I'm right -that's just the way I remembered it.



So, what does he call himself when he is part of the Titans?
Wouldn't he just go back to being kid flash? Unless he is too old now.

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He's way too old now. Plus Bart Allen (Barry's grandson) is Kid Flash.

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I don't need it explained to me (unless you want to) but I was sure that in the 80s that there was no Barry Allen in the post-Crisis Earth.
Barry died before the worlds were "reformatted" and therefore he never existed.
There were several characters that remembered the realities merged and that Barry Allen and the original Super Girl had lived and died but for the most part no one else did.

It was all very confusing, but I promise it was less confusing than trying to keep track of a continuity that kept changing universes because the writers couldn't remember which "Earth" they were on.
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He's way too old now. Plus Bart Allen (Barry's grandson) is Kid Flash.
Alright, then who is impulse?! I been trying to make sense of it. But it all gets torn apart. :/

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Old 07-01-2009, 02:02 PM   #27
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So, what does he call himself when he is part of the Titans?
I think he still calls himself Flash. Sounds retarded, but hey, you've got a few thousand sentient beings calling themselves "Green Lantern" throughout the DC Universe, so it's not that bad.

While I normally like everything that Geoff Johns does, what bothers me more is that his Flash: Rebirth series contains a massive plothole. According to this series, Barry Allen's father, Dr. Henry Allen, was imprisoned after being suspected of murdering his wife, Barry's mother when he was 10, and died in jail before he even became the Flash. This makes zero sense considering that Barry Allen's parents were both still alive when he sacrificed his life during the Crisis on Infinite Earths and were later said to have died shortly thereafter...in a story Johns himself wrote no more than five years ago if I remember correctly. Moreover, the supervillain known as the Top once possessed Henry Allen well after Barry Allen became the Flash. BAH.

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Barry died before the worlds were "reformatted" and therefore he never existed.

There were several characters that remembered the realities merged and that Barry Allen and the original Super Girl had lived and died but for the most part no one else did.
No, Supergirl was the only major character in the Crisis who suffered this indignity (aside from the Earth-Two characters such as Golden Age Superman, Wonder Woman, and Robin as well as the Huntress). Pretty much everyone else was reshuffled into the new continuity.

And Supergirl's sudden nonexistence was a post-Crisis retcon. Initially, everyone on the new Earth remembered who she was. There was even a really lame-ass post-Crisis story featuring her secret alien husband or something. However, an editorial mandate at the time stated that Superman being "The Last Son of Krypton" didn't make sense anymore considering that the Phantom Zone villains and Kandor survivors, among others, were all still around, so they flushed everything down the crapper when John Byrne did his reboot.

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Alright, then who is impulse?! I been trying to make sense of it. But it all gets torn apart. :/
Bart Allen began his career as Impulse. He later assumed the mantle of Kid Flash.

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I remember reading The Flash after the reboot and although Wally remembered that he had been Kid Flash and Barry Allen had been The Flash I seem to remember that everyone else thought Wally was always The Flash -after Jay that is. I remember the two of them meeting up.

I'm not saying I'm right -that's just the way I remembered it.
Hmm...it might be because Barry Allen's identity wasn't public knowledge at the time and Wally West adopted his costume. Everyone might've assumed that they were one and the same person.
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Just finished Final Crisis...my head hurts. Kudos to Morrrison for trying something so revolutionary in comics, but this series really needed 5 more issues. Hell, Final Crisis could have ran an entire year. From the final third of issue 6 through issue 7, I gotta reread that a few more times.
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Meh, I dindīt like the concept or the story. Then again, I am not a fan of the New Gods or Darkseid for that matter. An entire year of that? Fuck no.
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Final Crisis is a good name for it. After this, I doubt DC will allow any more Crisis stories to be written. Oh and there were vampires for some reason.
Yah, what was up with that vampire made out of organ meats?

Pfah, sticking to simple DC books for a while. Like JLA.

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