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06-30-2009, 06:00 PM
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#31 | | City Commander Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,285 Location: Croydon, England Collection Count: 1500+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunar Archivist My interpretation is that the story is an allegory about the pointlessness, the price, and the aftermath of extended warfare. The Autobots and the Decepticons have been fighting for millions of years. Both sides became so focused on beating each other that they lost sight of their original objectives and began accumulating massive amounts of collateral damage without putting much thought into it: hundreds of innocents worlds and billions of innocent beings were dragged into their civil war and exterminated, Cybertron was rendered all but uninhabitable by the swarm, etc.
Then the Decepticons essentially won the war (at least temporarily). The reason that All Hail Megatron might seem devoid of a deeper plot is because it started with their victory and essentially asked the question, "Well, now what the heck do we do?" The Decepticons spent millions of years honing the art of warfare against the Autobots and perfected it. And now their adversaries are gone. When you fight for the sole purpose of winning and then finally succeed, what, then, is your purpose in life?
We see the Decepticons take every possible path. Megatron, as big as an asshole as he is, admittedly had a grand vision: he wanted to create a new order while systematically dismantling the Decepticon war machine, even though he realized that, if he succeeded, he'd be rendered an obsolete relic with no place in the empire he'd create. Starscream and the Decepticons he got to join him mistakenly believed that Megatron was now directionless and decided to forge their own path. Some, like Bombshell, Skywarp, and Reflector, just decided to indulge their sadism by conducting inhuman experiments and genocide.
The Autobots were also forced to take a long, hard look at themselves. Optimus Prime realizes towards the end of the series that, in a sense, his troops were no better than the Decepticons because they'd essentially never given a second thought to all the innocent beings they'd sucked into the war. That's why he decided to take the first step in changing that by going back to Earth and liberate it. | If that was what they were going for its a good idea exicuted badly then, poor pacing has been the burden of AHM since the begining cos really while there were hints of that it came off more as something dumped in the last few issue and the rest was oh look I blow shit up but I'm all deep about it. I don't know the whole thing came off as only half done, maybe it his skill as a writer, in the begining it just didn't have that underton to I think something like this needs and the end felt to thrown together. I blame the writer here but I have to wonder how much damage taking this from a stand alone story idea to being the main IDW universe had given all the past plot line that had to be tied in and future one that'll now spring from it.
I would say the change of editoral direction is what did for AMH and put me off its writer but then again he did invent Drift. Your signature image may not exceed 40 Mega Fonzies in Coolness. -staff |
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06-30-2009, 06:11 PM
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#32 | | ijt333 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 19,987 Location: Minneapolis Collection Count: all but 28 News Credits: 1 | It seems the concept should have been fleshed out beyond the pitch "What if the Decepticons were on Earth unopposed by the Autobots?!" The Jazz/Prowl leadership thing was weird, the Sunstreaker traitor arc seemed tacked on, and the Ironhide-Mirage bit was lifted from an episode of RiD with the Spychanger versions of these two.
And upon reflection, it was fucked-up how Skywarp would just execute Thundercracker like that. Starscream directly opposed Megatron and Skywarp didn't do a thing, just stood on the sidelines and waited to see which way the fight went. Hopefully that wasn't a fatal blast and he just warps an unconscious Thundercracker into a starship holding cell for judgement once Megatron recovers. Fosterlager's Big G1 and Botcon sale (with FREEBIES!) Want List  TFW2005 and eBay feedback. Collection Showcase Thread! |
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06-30-2009, 06:17 PM
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#33 | | City Commander Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,285 Location: Croydon, England Collection Count: 1500+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosterlager It seems the concept should have been fleshed out beyond the pitch "What if the Decepticons were on Earth unopposed by the Autobots?!" The Jazz/Prowl leadership thing was weird, the Sunstreaker traitor arc seemed tacked on, and the Ironhide-Mirage bit was lifted from an episode of RiD with the Spychanger versions of these two.
And upon reflection, it was fucked-up how Skywarp would just execute Thundercracker like that. Starscream directly opposed Megatron and Skywarp didn't do a thing, just stood on the sidelines and waited to see which way the fight went. Hopefully that wasn't a fatal blast and he just warps an unconscious Thundercracker into a starship holding cell for judgement once Megatron recovers. | I think the Iornhide mirage thing in RID was just a retelling of the Cliffjumper Mirage stroy from the G1 cartoon, damn 3 universe of the other bots not tursting him, about time some one had a little faith the poor guy. Your signature image may not exceed 40 Mega Fonzies in Coolness. -staff |
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07-01-2009, 01:32 PM
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#34 | | I ♥ Juri Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,009 Location: Dallas Collection Count: 200+ | I think a lot of the issues people have voiced here are mostly because of the fact that AHM obviously was meant to be a stand alone tale and was not supposed to replace the main continuity.
Think about it: why have the whole "Sunstreaker is a traitor" reason for the Decepticons' conquering Earth when the last story arc in the main continuity had the Autobots' leaving the Earth unguarded anyway?
So, I have chosen not to elaborate on where McCarthy's story doesn't fit with Furman's anymore.
I can see that he made an honest attempt to make it work and he was pretty successful.
The fate of Hunter was grim and, in my opinion a good bridge between the two continuities -regardless of the last "feel good" panel of Maximum Dinobots.
The story could have been paced better, but it worked.
I liked it that Megatron "got in Starscream's head" and it worked.
It showed that Megatron has many abilities beyond his fusion cannon.
But I don't like the fact that we see Ratchet saying how it will be near impossible to repair Optimus only to have Optimus swoop in and save the day the very next issue with no detail on how any of it happened.
I also want to know what is The Matrix in the IDWverse, what did Megatron want to do with it (and why didn't he just do it?) and who has The Matrix now?  Xbox Live :Adam Smasher |
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07-01-2009, 02:23 PM
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#35 | | Predacon Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 447 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosterlager And upon reflection, it was fucked-up how Skywarp would just execute Thundercracker like that. Starscream directly opposed Megatron and Skywarp didn't do a thing, just stood on the sidelines and waited to see which way the fight went. Hopefully that wasn't a fatal blast and he just warps an unconscious Thundercracker into a starship holding cell for judgement once Megatron recovers. | I actually liked Thundercracker's sense of honor as well and hope he survived.
As for Skywarp's actions, they weren't that fucked-up. I mean, he was already whining about how none of the other seekers were hanging out with him anymore and got all damn emo about it. Plus, there's a difference between his going after Thundercracker and going after Starscream: Thundercracker's just a grunt like Skywarp while Starscream is the seeker commander and second-in-command of the Decepticons. |
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07-01-2009, 05:48 PM
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#36 | | Annoying Human Sidekick Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 567 Location: Phoenix, AZ Collection Count: About a dozen Megatrons and every Robot Hero out there. | I'm a huge fan of Thundercracker and I was really happy with his portrayal in this issue. I can't remember if it showed up at all in a previous issue or not, though. I'm hoping that he survived the blast from Skywarp, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just killed him off.
It was disappointing to see Kup showing up in two parts of the fight here. I hate this new direction they've taken him by giving him some huge authority role. The cartoon had it right when he was just an old grumpy guy that had experience but no leadership. But in this issue for him to beat Bombshell, then fight Skywarp, and then show up to fight Dropshot? That's just too much. Why couldn't anyone else have saved Sideswipe? With all these characters, why not showcase another one of them there? Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkysas nostalgia is an evil, deceptive bitch. | |
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07-03-2009, 08:04 PM
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#38 | | The Sh!t Blizzard Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 172 Location: White To the Rock Canaduh Collection Count: 64 | you know the art work was super rushed...that was a drag....but i liked the issue for sure
i dont think thundercracker is dead though....hunter on the other hand is definitely dead  http://www.myspace.com/shaundis |
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