ALLEDGED Movie Starscream concept pic

[Fit For natalie]

Update: Alright, I'm calling this Full of Crap until we see actual, real proof. So I'd like a mod to lock it for me. Sorry people :(



Rumour
I found this posted on the Macross World TF forums (who has now changed the upload).

Based on info we've heard for the past month or so, this is ALLEDGEDLY a CONCEPT for the Movie Starscream design:

I should continue to reiterate that if this is legit, it would be one of hundreds, if not thousands of concept designs they would have come up with

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9898/tfm18av.jpg

Originally posted here at the Macross World forums by cwmodels.
http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=18516&view=findpost&p=397079

[Ultimus Prime]

It's...different. I quite like it. As long as they keep Optimus the same, it's fine.

[Laser_Optimus]

...words can not describe my horror...

I mean, geez... I'm open to knew things, but why... oh why does this thing look like something out of the old inhumanoids cartoon?

Could Hasbro even engineer that?

:peoples: God I hope this is just a rumor...

[Pidgeot018]

Transtech?

[NIDARAM12]

That would be sick!!! I love it, and I think the transformation scheme would be like the mechs in the Japanese film "The Returner" with LOTS of shifting and sliding parts and plates that fit together to make the plane.....which is awesome.

I'm sure the reason this thread has so little posts is because so many fans are suffering from a heart attack but as a fan of all things mecha I'll be excited to know that this is indeed official :)

[ManziG]

keep in mind that "concept" does not mean "official".

[Cataclizm1]

That's.................weird looking. :( Legs look like a four-legged animals hind legs and the arms are too long.

[Mr Grimm]

Not sure what to think really.

The head looks iffy, but I quite like the design overall. Not really Starscream material though.

[REDLINE]

looking at the cockpit of the jet on the robotmode, that doesn't look possible to make into a toy at all.. the rest of its entirely too big, ESPECIALLY the gorilla arms... would be nice if it could KINDA resemble the bot, he's pretty much had the same head in every incarnation...

[Backpack]

No freaken way they are going to go that route.

[Ruination04]

:puke: :puke: :puke:

OMG!!

First the character name choices and now this???? I don't think I'm likeing this at all.....

[Cast]

It looks… awful, okay its just a pick it could get better but that looks nothing like starscream I mean I could totally take it as a TF, could even quite loke it, its got a nice savage looking bot mode, but it looks nothing like screamer. I’m no G1 fan boy but if they are trying to get people that watched TF’s as kids in to see this film like they said they were they have got to look at least some thing G1.

Okay nice idea but not for starscream please.

[The Phazer]

There's no reason to neccessarily freak out, it's maybe not real, and even if it is real many concepts are produced that bear no releation to the final design.

But damn, that is hideous. All time worst idea ever winner.

Phazer

[Rodimus Pie]

Looks positively stupid. Hopefully just an abandoned concept.

So far off base, it's laughable. It's as if they made the movie version of Wolverine a 12-year-old girl.

[ILoveDinobot]

Ewww :cry he has no face and hes a monster in a bad way!

[Dragonwolf]

oh please no

that is one of the ugliest robot modes i have ever seen

looks like they took cybertron crumplezone and said how can we make it uglier and worse

[Valkysas]

its shit, and there's no way any of the TFs are gonna look like that in the movie.

[Clutchburn]

IMO it works if they want to portray the TF's as the "big bad" Alien monstrosities that have infiltrated Earth. To be honest I kind of like it, but I also am torn with wanting to see the designs as Geewun on the big screen.

[NIDARAM12]

Its probably just fan made or maybe by some talented guy on a Japanese image board.... you can still see the pencil lines under what looks like a quick photoshop sketch. doesnt look like anything special but it might just be a professionals really really rough sketch

[Aberration]

That pic kinda reminds me of Transtech, in that it's pretty out there compared to my notion of what Transformers should look like.

Unlike most Transtech designs though, I have no idea how that thing could possibly transform.

[Fit For natalie]

Like I stated, this is just a concept sketch. There would be hundreds, probably thousands of concept sketches before a final one is selected, and even that one would undergo changes.

[Josh]

:redface2:

[SKowl]

I'm as open to new ideas as the anyone... but this is just stupid.

It looks like a gorilla and a Cylon had one too many and jumped in the sack together... 9 months later, you get this freaky thing.

[Viagra Prime]

It's a concept sketch and hopefully it's not selected because the thing looks horrible. Starscream with claws and chicken legs just doesn't look too appealing. He looks like a goon rather than one of the top decepticons (if he's even one of the tops in the movie). Jet mode looks ok though. Kinda looks like energon starscream's jet mode.

[Severus]

Nothing to see here, folks.

In some of the original Star Wars concept art, for example, a lot of it is really out there too, particularly the Yoda-gremlins. If this is legit, it's just one concept of many that problably won't be chosen because it's fugly.

[Greyryder]

No. Just no. If this is the look they go for in the movie, I won't be bothering to watch it. That monstrocity is not Transformers. It's not even GoBots.

That said. I really don't think that's from the movie. If it is, it's probably a very early sketch, long since discarded.

[Ktulu]

I hope it's fake because that's frigging terrible. What the fuck kind of robot mode is that, especially for Starscream? No way. I'd cringe to think that someone would dream that up even as a concept.

[Josh]

just a few tweaks and it COULD be a kinda cool design

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/dcjosh/MYmoviescreamer.jpg

*shrug*

only time will tell

[Orodruin]

Um... eww. Interesting idea I guess, but not for Starscream. I mean reverse jointed legs like that? And wtf is up with his head? I can't even tell where it is in the original sketch.

[MegaMoonMan]

just a few tweaks and it COULD be a kinda cool design

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/dcjosh/MYmoviescreamer.jpg

*shrug*

only time will tell

Give it a better more "Starscreamish" head and slightly less beastly limbs, and I'd buy it.

As for the original sketch, hell no.

[Fit For natalie]

"*COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH* Smelly boy!"


A cookie for you if you get both references and why I attribute them to this SS concept :P

[Ktulu]

I hate to be another "Can't be pleased" fanboy on this one, but really, that just doesn't cut it as Starscream. It has no sleekness. It doesn't stand out in any way. All it says is "random evil robot." All I meant in the post I made above is that I hope it's not even really a concept piece, because I don't see why anyone would feel that that sort of look is appropriate for Starscream.

[Optimus8404]

I think it SUCKS.

[Superman_Alpha]

would be nice if it could KINDA resemble the bot, he's pretty much had the same head in every incarnation...

Don already confirmed that despite the new designs, each TF would resemble the original robot modes enough that you could identify them.

[artiepants]

Transtech?
word. I kind of like it, espciallyif it was a new take on the Toy series.

as a movie, though, i think they should be a bit more iconic... Josh's tweeks are nice, and i could see the design moving closer to a G1 look (i.e. hands, face)

[Lazerbeak]

I highly doubt that's an official movie concept, mainly because I can't imagine why the studio would even dream of making Screamer look like that in a movie that's supposed to be a G1 homage in every way.

As far as mecha design goes, I kinda like it, it's new and interesting. But like others have said, it's got absolutely nothing to do with Starscream other than the fact that it turns into a jet (an outdated protoype jet at that).

If it actually did come from the studio, then it's probably a very early design, but personally, it looks more like a piece of fan art to me.

[Shaun_C]

Don already confirmed that despite the new designs, each TF would resemble the original robot modes enough that you could identify them.

I always liked that about Don :)

Different enough to stand out from the previous.But similar enough to be recognized.

Now that I think about while every Prime,Megatron and Starscream from each line looks different.They do all share a similar face to the G1 counterpart:D

[Hiro Prime]

Wow. That's just gorgeous!..... for a Macross mech.

As a TF, no.

[Hakudoushi]

No freaken way they are going to go that route.

The simple fact that we're talking about hasbro should logically rule this out as real. Hasbro wants the robots in the movies to look like the robots they've already established through the years of Transformers. Otherwise, they'd be just shooting themselves in the foot.

I can see this as MAYBE how they plan to make the TFs look before getting earth alt modes, but unlikly.

[Shaun_C]

I posted without first seeing the pic

That's the most HIDEOUS thing I've ever seen.

I'm with the majority on this,that can't be the final.It's either 1)VERY preliminary or 2)Some cruel hoax.

It doesn't even look professional:redface2:

My problem is twofold

1)The Jet form and the robot form don't match up.Why would a jet transform into a robot with claws and talons.The robot form looks to beastial

2)I'm not a G1 purist or anything,but that's too different even for me which says a lot.

As "pro-G1" as DeSanto and Murphy seem to be.There's no way they'd aprove something so ghastley

Disclaimer - I don't mean "pro G1 in a bad way.It's just the best term I could think of to describe their viewpoint

[Metal Soldier]

I actually like the design, its different and mean looking. It'd make a great grunt-type but not for Starscream.

[kenm2474]

Thats kind of Scary he dosnt look anything like Starscream.

[peteynorth]

It's probably an official concept sketch, but you have to figure that each character is going to have several different concept designs. I'm pretty sure that this one won't make the cut. But at least we know where the 'Gorilla with wings' description that's been floating around came from.

Now, were the plane a bomber and the character someone other than Starscream, this would be a very cool design.

[SpazmasterX]

Hey, I like it and if they made a toy I'd buy it. From fighter jet to relentless killing machine.:thumb

[Sy-Rein]

I really hope they decide on a style more resembling the original Starscream. That 'ape'-bot is not anything close to what I would conceive Starscream as. Even something along the lines of the WarWithin SS would be much more preferable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, in 'bot mode all the movie TFs should be immediatly recognisable as the character they are intended to be. Like X-Men, the characters were changed, improved, w/e, to suit a live-action movie but were still recognisable as the character they protrayed.

[evebird]

Didn't we read an interview suggesting they might make the robots more "angular" and less "blocky"? This design certainly seems to fit that approach.

[Drew Eiden]

Ah if reading the stories behind most of the concept art for episode 3 it's that's 9 times out of 10 it doesn't look like that in the final.

[Hiro Prime]

Ya know, it's kinda growing on me as I take a second look. But I get an Apeface feel about it more than a Starscream.

Maybe this was leaked to guage initial reaction and to lessen the shock of what we'll see in the end. After all, if the final character looks somewhere inbetween this and G1 than we'd mostly agree that the final wasn't as bad/jarring as this design.

[Acid Wing]

I highly doubt that it's affiliated with the move...otherwise, the design looks like it's a cross between Evangelion and Robotech. Personally, I'm not feeling the "transformer spirit" from this concept sketch.

[Weirdwolf]

I'm not averse to it, but the arms are too big and the legs are too small. I care not that it doesn't look like G1 'Screamer but it should look a little more proportionate IMO.

[Beastbot X]

okay its just a pick it could get better but that looks nothing like starscream I mean I could totally take it as a TF, could even quite loke it, its got a nice savage looking bot mode, but it looks nothing like screamer. I’m no G1 fan boy but if they are trying to get people that watched TF’s as kids in to see this film like they said they were they have got to look at least some thing G1.

Okay nice idea but not for starscream please.

Pretty much my response to it.

[TSFC]

This is most likely someone playing a game. It has to be. For if this is the way they're planning the robot modes, then I shall not be going to see the film. No way, no how.

Hell, not even if that's a Pre-Earth design either.

It has to be a joke. Got to be.

Vehicle mode would rock though. I like that jet.

[Rumble02]

my soul just died a little

[Backscatter]

Bad concept design, not even close to any known "Starcream" from any Generation/Continuity. It's ugly even by Transtech standards and the idea of a Fighter Jet transforming into a monsterous mechanical beast just doesn't seem to fit. . . anywhere.

[Rampage01]

I rather like the design myself, but it doesn't look like you could make it work as a toy, which is probably a must for the final movie designs.

[IACON]

WTF?!?
:puke:

[wheeljack01]

Oh no!!!

[Dark Prime]

On a positive node, the alt mode looks nice.

[butz]

I don't buy it; I don't see how you get from point A: the jet to point B: that robot they have pictured there. I understand they were going to stray away from the original designs, but wasn't that so the Transformers would look more like something that could function in the real world, not less?
I'd say its either a complete fake, or just something one of the designers was playing around with (and thus not anything we'll actually see in the movie.) I don't mind unconventional designs, but I just don't see how that one would be functional for the movie.

[Switchblade]

Not buying it.

[Soundwave.ca]

Lets hope with this one there's more emphasis on the "alleged" aspect of this rumor.

[SubotaiBaghatur]

my soul just died a little
QFE

If that is the direction this movie is taking I will not watch it. There is absolutely no reason for them to try and reinvent the wheel, if they cant make the fans happy, nobody will be happy, history has proved this.

[David Hingtgen]

Just a quick comment:

Of course alt mode looks nice, it's a real plane. A YF-22 to be exact. Note that is not an F-22 like in the current comic. Here's the pic I always use to show YF-22 vs F-22:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9350/differences4et.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=differences4et.jpg)

Though if you're trying to make the movie characters very hidden and emphasizing disguise, making it a very rare prototype won't help much.

[David Magnus]

Ugh...Let's hope the reason this concept leaked is because someone threw this garbage away. If this is the way the designs will go, I will not watch the movie for any price.

Magnus

[The Madness]

Nice design, looks nothing like screamer, apart from being a jet and biped......... Stylistically looks nothing like a "Transformer design", closest being Transtech perhaps.

I don't think hasbro would approve this....

...... I don't know if they could even make it into a toy!

[Mike]

coooooooooooooooool :D

They should make that some day, but not for the movie :)

what's sweet though, that they're going for a real messed up chunk of metal with limbs and a head for a robot mode. really mechanical and really complex. that will be amazing to see on the big screen, I can't wait :D

I hope they stayed that route and just kept the robots better proportioned :)

[Feralstorm]

Like others have hinted around - looks a lot like something Draxhall-Jump, the design house that did the early concept work on Beast Machines and Transtech, might've come up with. It doesn't look bad, but it's not something I'd like to see in the film, especially for Starscream, so I'm hoping with the others that it's a hoax or a reject.

I think the biggest probelm I have with this design, outside of its relative infeasibility, is its overly bestial, monstrous nature. Even assuming it's a given that movie TFs will not look much like their G1 counterparts, they are alien robot SOLDIERS, not alien robot MONSTERS. Every other effect-heavy movie has creative CGI monsters all over the place. How about not taking that route for once, especially when the sourse material doesn't really support it in the first place?

[planetjacker]

I don't feel this would be any more that concept. Hasbro will want to make toys to tie in with the film and I don't see how the bot and alt could mesh into a feasable toy design. Also the bot mode just dosen't fit Starscream as he has been represented since G1.

[Fit For natalie]

UPDATE: I am told that this is not one of the original pieces of art that was seen - BUT is VERY close to the original production concept, but not as good from an artistic standpoint.

So sorry guys, this is apparently fan art based very closely on the actual concepts. I don't know what the hell is going on, either.


And I wonder how the hell so many people in unrelated fandoms have seen the same thing...

[Chrono Grimlock]

:(

[Hiro Prime]

For years after the cancellation of Transtech many of us fans have been begging Hasbro to make them for us. And we'd always be left disapointed.

Now, just when we're finally are getting a Live Action Movie for TF's, they wanna bring it back?!?

I'll still go and see this movie. The design looks very good. But this ain't Transformers in any sense of the word from any series in the last 21 years. And while we were warned upfront that this wasn't going to be G1, I WAS hoping for at least a little of what I've loved about TF's to be a part of it.

As many have posted over at DM's board. If this is the face of TF's in the movie, they might as well have saved the licensing fees with Hasbro.

[Belgrath]

Ehhhh... the design looks kinda meh.

[godsenddeath]

Transtech?


First thing i thought.

...and i'm not a fan ot Transtech.,

[Scourge_151]

Looks like something Macfarlane'd come up with, doesn't look 'starscream' like at all in bot mode
but then again it's someones attempt at recreating a picture of a concept so who knows what the ACTUAL starscream will look like

[NotoriousBIC]

Well concept or not, this design (and subsequent reactions to it) do illustrate alot to me.

First of all I think a majority of people here WILL be VERY disappointed by the final movie designs for 2 particular reasons.
1. It's 21st century now. CG and movie techniques in general have progressed leaps and bounds. People have come to expect near-perfect realism or at least the illusion of it.
Therefore, base colors and flat surfaces morphing into shaped surfaces just won't cut it anymore. Now this is something everybody already knows, but alot don't seem to realise that the robot-modes will also be MUCH more 'techy' and not simply more detailed versions of their G1 incarnations.
2. Identifiability. Bad and good guys have to be instantly recognisable as such, not only for the TF fans, but for everybody. For example G1 Screamer is far too 'soft' and bright-colored to be evil looking. The movie makers will grab every chance to make him more spiky,sharp-edged, menacing, beast-like they can come up with.

Autobot designs: Square angles, real world colors with decals, faces with eyes and mouth
Decepticon designs: Sharp angles, sickly/dark colors, non-human faces

So this fan-art may be over the top, but for example Josh's edit of it may well be very close to the final designs.

p.s.: As always this is just my 2 cents and nothing more :)

[Xaxis]

*barfs*

[Tenebrouser]

No way that thing will be in a movie.

Please.

[.SentinelPrime Is Dead.]

I wasnt planning on seeing this movie anyway, but that is just gross. seriously. EW!

[Orodruin]

I was thinking about that design on the way home from work. It could kind of work as a Beast Machines Starscream, or something along those lines. Then again I guess that's where all the transtech references come in, but I don't really know transtech from a hole in the wall. :p

[SydneyY]

It's OK. Now I am prepared for the worst. I am sure I will be pleasantly surprised later.

[Angelophile1]

Okay, so we know it's fake then.

[Dys]

Ugh... If this is how Transformers are going to look, why did they bother to get the license? This could be a nameless alien machine from any science fiction film with a reasonably large budget, it doesn't look like a Transformer, even Transtech had more of a transformerlike appearance.

[Fit For natalie]

Okay, so we know it's fake then. The picture itself is apparently not one of the original concept arts, but its based very closely on the alledged actual art that has been seen.

[Autobus Prime]

[Observing concept art]

Reaction:

SSTAAARSCREAM WAANTZ BRAAAAAAAAAAAINZZZ!

[Megatronwp38]

ugly as sin...will abandon TFs forever if any of them look like this in the movie....

[Eric]

Further proof that the movie will suck...

[Autobus Prime]

That monstrocity is not Transformers.

Grey:

Monstrocity certainly IS a Transformer. He was an
awesome kitbash by Don Figueroa:

http://macromasters.5u.com/images/Monstrocity1.jpg
http://macromasters.5u.com/images/MonstroCITY3.jpg

:)

EDIT: Too bad Don wasn't hired to design the movie characters.
For that matter, Floro Dery is still very much alive and active,
and if I remember right from the interview I saw, he did try to
get in on the new movie...

[Brave Magnus]

Please, please, this pic has to be fake.

[Autobus Prime]

Folks:

If by some unfortunate chance the movieformers look like this, then the chance is they won't translate well to toys. This is good. This means that the Takara engineers will have sufficient excuse to come up with something completely different.

Example: Ever notice how all the AEC concept designs have big Popeye forearms and shins, which never seem to make it past the concept stage?

[Sepultron]

Well, whatever the case, it definitely puts the "scream" in "Starscream".

[Dark_Convoy]

Let me add to those who don't like it.

I mean, it could work if they gave it less beastly proportions and a more TF-like head.

I really hoped the TFs in the movie would actually LOOK LIKE Transformers - is that too much to ask?

[SAJse]

Grey:
EDIT: Too bad Don wasn't hired to design the movie characters.
For that matter, Floro Dery is still very much alive and active,
and if I remember right from the interview I saw, he did try to
get in on the new movie...
I'd like to add EJ to that list.

Oh and I hate this design with a passion. Kennywave sounds like an inpired choice after this.

I mean assuming it's close to one of the original concepts.

[george tremarco]

First toy prototype pics so soon?



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/g_tremarco/scream.jpg




:wink:

[The Madness]

First toy prototype pics so soon?

:wink:

LOL, Its funny 'cause it's true.

You've been waiting 20 odd years to be doing something usefull with that toy haven't you?

[Steevy Maximus]

I'm leaning towards this not being close to the one used in the film, for a coupe factors:

1. This thing is an engineering NIGHTMARE, much like the Beast Machines designs, in regards to toys. And logically, the more complex a transformation, the longer it would take to change (not just toys, but anything). I would think a more streamlined transform would be more efficient in combat

2. Hasbro has a vested interest in character recognition. I think that regardless of aesthetic, Hasbro will want Joe Schmo on the street to recognize Optimus Prime, or Megatron, or Starscream. This design, as others have said, is far too generic.

Personally, I think the movie design will not be liked by the fandom. I think the end result will be something like a Terminator endoskeleton with jet parts hanging off it, with exposed hydrolics and such. It will NOT be the stylized anime robots we've all come acustom to over the past 20 years.

[Eric]

First toy prototype pics so soon?



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/g_tremarco/scream.jpg




:wink:


Oh, HELL no.

[Ops_was_a_truck]

Not a big fan of that design. The starscream we've been sold for years is slick, confident and lanky. If nothing else, Starscream should be more limber than that. And the face/head...that's not the robot we know and love.

[fosterlager]

Absolutely terrible. How are the Starscream fangirls supposed to swoon over THAT?

I wouldn't even bother DOWNLOADING a movie that tried to pass that off as a Transformer, let alone spend money on it.

[Heat Guy]

I could see it as a clone army or something. Somethign that would inspire fear and just freak people out. But no, not for an icon.

[Belgrath]

First toy prototype pics so soon?



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/g_tremarco/scream.jpg




:wink:

I don't think so.

[Superman_Alpha]

http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurphy/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10228&perpage=15&pagenumber=4

Originally posted by Don Murphy
Guys
You really got to chill on this shit.
Starscream is not a Gorilla. Lots of the rumors are close. LOts are false.
CHILL PILLS for everyone.

Can we FINALLY put an end to this stupid rumor?

[Brandon]

Its a concept sketch. Doubt that'll be the final look and futhermore, I bet there's other concept sketches that are probably similar to to the 'Screamer we all know and love. So really, not sweating it right now.

[fosterlager]

JETT not MUNKY

[butz]

http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurphy/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10228&perpage=15&pagenumber=4

Guys
You really got to chill on this shit.
Starscream is not a Gorilla. Lots of the rumors are close. LOts are false.
CHILL PILLS for everyone.


Can we FINALLY put an end to this stupid rumor?

Can't get any more official than that.

[Orodruin]

JETT not MUNKY

:lol Nice.

[george tremarco]

I don't think so.

A 'wink' icon at the end of a post usually denotes a joke.



Just in case you were having trouble with that.

[Belgrath]

A 'wink' icon at the end of a post usually denotes a joke.



Just in case you were having trouble with that.

Oh right, my bad :redface2:

[MegaMoonMan]

http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurphy/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10228&perpage=15&pagenumber=4



Can we FINALLY put an end to this stupid rumor?

What Don said doesn't prove anything, maybe HE doesn't consider that THING to be a gorilla like we do.

The whole thing with Don is he can't prove or disprove anything and be taken seriously. He has a "secret" project to protect, and misinformation is probably something he has to use to keep us guessing.

That being said, I still don't think that's what Starscream will look like.

[Shin-Gouki]

The word ASS comes to mind, as in looks like.....

[Deemer]

Looks like someone ripped off a design from Returner and wacked Starscream on it.

[Superman_Alpha]

What Don said doesn't prove anything

:rolleyes2

[Lupis Convoy]

Honestly, I can see the transformation, or atleast the start of it anyway. But well.. It isn't starscream.

As has been said a million times, this might be one of the original design concepts for chatracters.. maybe starscream, but it could have been done WAAAAAY before the design developers had been told G1-esque.

I never thought I would say this in all my years, but I agree with both Phazer and Murphy. Chill pills.. and UGLY.

Ummm... am I right in thinking that's also not the plane type that Starscream is supposed to be based on?

Regardless, we just have to wait and see and things will be shown soon enough. :)

[Golden Age]

I officially dont care anymore. I do not have any expectations for this film. If it is good then I will be happy. Otherwise I am not going to spend any more time thinking about it.

[David Hingtgen]

Ummm... am I right in thinking that's also not the plane type that Starscream is supposed to be based on?

As I posted earlier, that's a YF-22. Which is very similar to, but not quite, the "preferred" update of the seekers you see nowadays, the F-22. It's a lot like the difference between a concept car at an auto show, and the final mass-production version you can actually buy.

Energon Starscream is an F-22, Machine Wars Megatron is a YF-22.

[Cheebs]

No. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.


They're intelegent beings, not clawed monsters. Even the big, scary, bad guys.

And the face looks like a mechanical vagina.

[fosterlager]

a mechanical vagina.
THAT's scary.

[Cheebs]

Well... At least now we won't have to worry if Frank Welker gets the part of Megatron or not, because if that design is any indication of the direction they are taking the Decepticons, the only line any Decepticon will have in the movie is "Blarg! Oop Oop Grwaaaarrr! Slurple sluprle. Aaaagwaaaarrrr! Grrrrrrrrr.... snarf. Grunt grunt. Ooba!" all while dripping with bio-ooze (aka corn syrup).

[Feralstorm]

Not so much a rant about the drawing in particular, but just a general thing.

I always find it interesting how every new movie feels the need to redesign/remake a previously established property, sometimes completely. It's like the concept people feel like they need to justify their existence by making an all-new version of an old thing, as opposed to just using the old thing again.

I'm not saying it's never necessary to update a property for a new film. Brightly colored spendex superhero costumes that look great as an illustration don't translate so well to live-action, for instance. I don't think anyone realistically expects 1980s-era vehicle modes and direct copies of the original robots out of their TF movie, but when an F-22 transforms into a half gorilla, half Vamp-from-Go-Bots, someone has lost their way.

I think Hasbro oughta force Don Figeuroa down the movie design staff's collective throat. He has what it takes to make designs that are both new and classic at the same time, not to mention ones that can usually work as toys too.

(sounding dangerously "geewun"ish, ain't I? :) )

[Fortress_Wise]

It looks cool but doesn't say starscream to me.

[Boardwise]

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