Roberto Orci: Soundwave NOT a Copter

[Master Fwiffo]

Take this as rumor right now because it was made in a lighthearted post after their own user-given popularity awards. But I don't think he has a reason to make it up and mess with us.

It was brought to my attention that I won a spammy! Thank you, everybody!

To show my thanks, let me say that Soundwave will NOT be a helicopter!

later....

Link (http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurphy/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8460)

[Omnibus Prime]

:peoples:

[REDLINE]

interestin'

-Andy

[Atomsplitter]

http://photos.yafro.com/pics3/i/20060216/23/f/c/8/fc894a7514a8da2149d79190a4285349200602160_full.jpg

[TSFC]

I'm in complete doubt about the fruition of this movie. I've just about given up any and all hope on it.

If it comes, I'll be one of the first to go see it. If not, well then...heh. Yeah.

[Hiro Prime]

So he's not a copter. What's the big deal? It's not as if they're gonna make him into a cassette player. Orci has already stated there will be no mass shiffting.

So whaterve he winds up being, half the fanbase is gonna be pissed and the other half just doesn't care. Be happy he's even in the film. (Hell, be happy a film is even being made guys.) :stick:

[Greyryder]

He'll be a compact car, with retina searing graphics all over him, and a stereo that has more power than his engine.

[Feralstorm]

He'll be an iPod Nano, and change into a robot four and a half inches tall.

On the upside, the toy can also be a 'roleplay item' :)

[tikgnat]

He'll be a compact car, with retina searing graphics all over him, and a stereo that has more power than his engine.

That reminds me of this guy I used to know. He had a old VW beetle, and added a mental sound system, problem was, he couldn't start the car when it was on...

[Ra88]

He'll be an iPod Nano, and change into a robot four and a half inches tall.

On the upside, the toy can also be a 'roleplay item' :)

I said it once, and I'll say it again: I don't mind as long as he has a larger body as well (gotta love the GT tech :D ).

[snkeyes069]

He'll be a compact car, with retina searing graphics all over him, and a stereo that has more power than his engine.
So, Soundwave will be Alternators Skids?

[e3nine]

I'm hoping he's a stop light. :cool:

[Moroni Prime]

Due to circumstances beyond my control, the role of G1 Soundwave will now be played by "Browning" from Masterforce.... that is all.

[unafraid]

He'll be a jet.

[Ra88]

He'll be a jet.

God, I hope not. :puke:

Hope he's a CIA or FBI van, or a mobile communications/command center...As long as he can still be a spy.

[Drake]

If they make him a plane make him a U-2 or a UAV. That way he still has the spy factor.

[JunkionExchange]

I say they will make soundwave a missle launching vehicle like his machine wars fig was it? Hey they might just cheapen out and slap a new head on CDT Red Alert

[Valkysas]

This is just a joking comment. don't take it seriously.

[Zero Prime]

AWAK, Yay!!

Nah, maybe he'll be a stealth ala Galaxy Force.

[TerraEsperZ]

I'm surprised at how many people seem to hate the Cybertron design. Granted, it's not the same Soundwave yet I think it suits the original's personality much more than Energon Shockblast's design would have fit G1 Shockwave for example. I just want an alt-mode with 'personality' so hopefully we'll get something better thanan AWAC or some generic communications vehicle.

[Nerd Bomber]

I'm surprised at how many people seem to hate the Cybertron design.

I don't hate it. It's just too sleek and not blocky enough of what I picture when I think of soundwave.

[Blastwave]

Good... there haven't been too many good helicopter transformations IMO.

I would like him to be a spy plane or satellite.

OR!! He could be a concert hall and Rumble and Frenzy could be ravers. They could transform into glowsticks. The new series after the movie could be called Transformers: LSD

[Switchblade]

:rock Whoo! Bring on toaster Soundwave with Lazerbeak the waffle!

[kenm2474]

I wouldnt be surprised if Soundwave were to be a Stealth Fighter Jet.

[meetoblivion]

they should make soundwave a kangaroo.

and the casettes would be carried around in his pouch

O_o;;

[Vangelus]

Aww! I was looking forward to copter-Soundwave. *cries*

Still, that leaves more possibilities. I'm guessing something surveillance-y.

[Ra88]

I'm surprised at how many people seem to hate the Cybertron design. Granted, it's not the same Soundwave yet I think it suits the original's personality much more than Energon Shockblast's design would have fit G1 Shockwave for example. I just want an alt-mode with 'personality' so hopefully we'll get something better thanan AWAC or some generic communications vehicle.

I don't hate it, I just think it wouldn't be fit for a movie or his role as a spy.

[IACON]

Soundwave will be an industrial freezer

[Omnus]

I hope it's not a joke. A helicopter really doesn't fit Soundwave at all, either in terms of surveillance or his name.

We know he can't be a casette-recorder or anything with mass-shifting. I have no problems with that. I just want to see something that fits Soundwave, and preferably lets him have his mini-army. A variation on what something mentioned earlier is something I thought up awhile ago which could work.

Imagine him as some tricked-out ghetto-mobile (maybe the front end even bounces up and down off the ground when its cruising). The trunk has speakers in it, the back seat is filled with speakers, there's even speakers under the hood and in the front seats. He can hit pretty much anything with a wall of concussive sound. Of course the doors, trunk and hood can all open up, not only to let the sound out, but the speakers themselves. The speakers in front seats could be the alt modes for Rumble and Frenzy (so they could ride as speakers or maybe pass for people in their robot modes through some heavy tinting), the backseat pair would be Buzzsaw and Lazerbeak, the engine compartment speaker is Ravage (the engine does not purr like a kitten), and the trunk speaker is Ratbat.

You could even get a good action sequence out of this involving humans. The tricked-up car pulls up next to the male lead (who is in his car, trying to get away because he found out something he shouldn't have). One of Soundwave's front doors opens and the speaker transforms into either Rumble or Frenzy and rips the door off the other car. Male lead scrambles out the other side and runs down the alley with Rumble and Frenzy in pursuit (throw in desired action effects to heighten tension). Male lead is splashing through alot of puddles along the way and gets an idea. Rumble and Frenzy round a corner and male lead drops a convienient electric line (could be coming from underground into regulator box on back of building that male lead manages to rip or cut out before where it enters box) into the puddle of water as Rumble and Frenzy step into it. The outcome of this is based on what you want to convey here. Either show that the humans can be of some use (Rumble and Frenzy short-out and collapse, putting them out of commission temporarily), or that the bad guys are a very huge threat even when they're fairly small (Rumble and Frenzy laugh off the attack, it having been too weak to penetrate/affect their armor/systems).

[Acid Wing]

Doesn't really bother me, since to me, a short mobilie h-q/reconaissance van would serve as a nice alt-mode (with Laserbeak as the satellite).

[Cheetatron]

I hope hes just joking as I have been sold on the helicoptor idea for months.

[Golden Age]

im sooo glad hes not a helicopter. I was never to keen on that.

SOundwave should be a type of supercomputer or something.

[Golden Age]

Actually I kinda like the satellite concept too.

[Brave Magnus]

Aw...I was getting used to the idea of Soundwave as an Helicopter. Oh well.

[SAJse]

If he was joking he certainly wouldn't have started new thread about it.

It's the same way he announced Arsee's omission and the lack of mass shifting.

E: And I'm with those who're happy with the news because helicopter Soundwave just plain suxxored IMO. Megatron should have at least one lieutenant on the ground with him.

[Crimson87]

How about a cat launch or jump-jet carrier? Maybe a bit too big but its still an idea.

[Gnaw]

What about an amplifier?

[Dirge121]

How about soundwave as one of these :
a type 82 command communications vehicle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/T-Rex121/T013.jpg
come on, someone could digibash this into a nice dark blue, maybe some gold trim or something, and a nice Decepticon insignia somewhere.

[Ra88]

What about Soundwave as a car carrier? That way the Cassetticons could be cars or bikes of their own, and he could cause some mayor havoc on the roads.

[Matrix Soul]

http://photos.yafro.com/pics3/i/20060216/23/f/c/8/fc894a7514a8da2149d79190a4285349200602160_full.jpg
It's amazing how a simple color scheme can make anything look like the character...

[Omnibus Prime]

You watch, they're going to make him a lamp post thingamawhat just like his original alt mode in MTMTE, and people will bitch.


*thinks Trypticon should be a Wal-Mart Supercenter*

[llamatron]

Meh, I liked the helicopter idea.

Other suggestions? Stealth Bomber / Jet, communications van thing.

[rattrap007]

I call him being a big pick up truck

[Cheetatron]

How does a helicoptor not suit Soundwave's spy requirements? Helicoptors are straight ninja! two or three of the coptor blades could have been nunchaku or a three section staff respectively while the remaining blade/s could be used as a sword in other words NINJA!

Coptors are Ninjas they are
-Mobile(You dont have to walk to the spying location and than TF to be inconspicuous and you dont need to be dropped off/picked up)
-Fast (for when your cover is blown and you have to haul ass)
-Agile (when you got to run and gun at top speed)
-can spy on shit miles away

Too much noise? after a certain distance you wouldnt be able to hear it anyway hell they could have made him silent if the writer wanted to give Soundwave stealth/silence powers. Skywarp can teleport and special abilities aren't exactly out of the norm with TFs so I have to wonder what gives.

I call him being a big pick up truckBefore all the news about the movie I got it into my head that soundwave would be pimp as a db racing pickup truck but once the suits said coptor I saw the error of my ways. Blaster would be a much better db racer pick up truck anyways

[Dalarsco]

I want one of three possiblities, in order of preference:
1. FBI or equivalent van. Good for spying, and his minions can pop out of the back.
2. Pimpmobile. Loud speakers fit the name, and Rumble and Frenzy can have some sort of hologram tech and turn into gangsters who ride around in him. Amusing and perfect for Rumble and Frenzy, but slightly out of character for the main guy. Also, the other minions don't work with it.
3. Spy satellite. Fits his spying MO, but no place for minions.

[Vangelus]

3. Spy satellite. Fits his spying MO, but no place for minions.

Yes there is. Minion-shuttles! :D

[Psychrome86]

It's amazing how a simple color scheme can make anything look like the character...

funny you say that, i was just thinking how a dark blue military vehicle will stick out like a sore thumb. i can see the autobots and other non-military vehicles with some flashy colors. though has anyone else noticed how live action movies that came from cartoons have severly toned down colors? imagine wolverine sporting his yellow spandex in the movie, same with all the other x-men. anyone remember the live-action The Tick on fox? didn't it seem really cartoony and comical with the costumes being bright and... cartoony?

[Insane Galvatron]

anyone remember the live-action The Tick on fox? didn't it seem really cartoony and comical with the costumes being bright and... cartoony?
Man, I loved that show. It was as funny as it could be. I'm suprised it bombed... I wonder if it'll ever be out on DVD?

[Dalarsco]

I've seen at least the pilot episode on DVD. I think possibly the entire series.
And back on topic, It would have to be a pretty huge satelite to house space shuttles. Yes, he can still have minions, but a big part of SOundwave has always been that hte minions were internal.

[Golden Age]

I have a problem with Soundwave being a vehicle of anykind. He has always done espionage, spywork, or technical/scientific stuff for Megatron. He should be something brainY, not something agressive and in your face. megatron has plenty of warriors for that.
If Soundwaves alt mode was a superscomputer he could still be a hacker, and his former casettes could now be little robot viruses.
Also, Soundwave could still maintain a similar apperance to his G1 counterpart, with a big screen on his chest!

[Insane Galvatron]

I really don't care what his alt mode is as long as we get to see him breakdance at some point in the movie.

[Cheetatron]

I have a problem with Soundwave being a vehicle of anykind. He has always done espionage, spywork, or technical/scientific stuff for Megatron. He should be something brainY, not something agressive and in your face. megatron has plenty of warriors for that.
If Soundwaves alt mode was a superscomputer he could still be a hacker, and his former casettes could now be little robot viruses.
That is idiotic he could hack into computers and shit in robot or any mode really hell all he need to do is connect to a network infustructure he doesn't need to be some immobile pile of crap to do it. Almost anything useful an immobile super computer altmode can do, a mobile altmode can do better.

super computer alt mode provides zero benifits. The alt mode wouldn't be fun to play with and would drag the entire toy down making it an almost guranteed shelf warmer. Do you really see little johnny asking his mom for the robot that turns into a super computer?

Johnny: Mom/Dad I want the robot that turns into a super computer I cant do much with.
Mom/Dad: What are you, a re re?
lol

WTF?!? Little robot viruses? Thats the worst "update the cassettes" idea ever. Viruses or virai are pieces of code how does that translate into corporeal beings in a non-cheesy way.

If I come off as a jerk I oppologize but those ideas are not very well thought out or marketable.

[Golden Age]

"That is idiotic he could hack into computers and shit in robot or any mode really hell all he need to do is connect to a network infustructure he doesn't need to be some immobile pile of crap to do it. Almost anything useful an immobile super computer altmode can do, a mobile altmode can do better. "

He was not mobile as a tapedeck either, but g1 Soundwave is still one of the most popular TFs of all time.
The point is to add variety. Not ALL the decepticons should be jets...thats boring. Besides what is the point of transforming in the first place? There must be some reason to turn into something else, right? Soundwave is mobile as a robot.

"Do you really see little johnny asking his mom for the robot that turns into a super computer?"

Yes, it all depends on how it is done.


"Mom/Dad: What are you, a re re?
lol"

not funny.

"WTF?!? Little robot viruses? Thats the worst "update the cassettes" idea ever. Viruses or virai are pieces of code how does that translate into corporeal beings in a non-cheesy way."

Well, since the Transformers are robots, who do function on code, programming etc...a virus would be a good enemy.

[Dio]

He was not mobile as a tapedeck either, but g1 Soundwave is still one of the most popular TFs of all time.
The point is to add variety. Not ALL the decepticons should be jets...thats boring. Besides what is the point of transforming in the first place? There must be some reason to turn into something else, right? Soundwave is mobile as a robot.
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Well, since the Transformers are robots, who do function on code, programming etc...a virus would be a good enemy.

There's plenty of mobile options for an espionage character... I personally am in favor of the F-117 Nighthawk stealth bomber (somewhat because of Galaxy Force, I'll admit), but if the Seekers are already present then they'd have to find him something else, I agree. But a stationary computer doesn't work well for Soundwave n' Pals because a virus is a tool, not an individual character - Rumble wouldn't work out as a piece of code in a mainframe.

[Atomsplitter]

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And boy, a racing pickup truck is a much better idea then a computer!

[Golden Age]

granted there may be better ideas, like the satellite idea is pretty good.

[Atomsplitter]

granted there may be better ideas, like the satellite idea is pretty good.

Problem with that one is that he wouldn't transform, and that would make him pretty boring. Cool idea though. I really think that he'll be a plane.

[Cheetatron]

And boy, a racing pickup truck is a much better idea then a computer!"DB" racing. If you dont bother to educate yourself on the topics discused perhaps you shouldn't bother to comment? Actually now that I think about it, because you brought it up. A racing tuned pick-up truck(I am almost certain there is some kind of pro/semi profesional circuit for that kinda thing) would still be a much, much better altmode than a computer.

[Atomsplitter]

"DB" racing. If you dont bother to educate yourself on the topics discused perhaps you shouldn't bother to comment? Actually now that I think about it, because you brought it up. A racing tuned pick-up truck(I am almost certain there is some kind of pro/semi profesional circuit for that kinda thing) would still be a much, much better altmode than a computer.

For all I knew, it could have been some obscure company I had never known of. I don't go and look up every single thing someone posts, and I highly doubt you do either. And why the hell is it called "racing"? It's just a sound competition, from what i've read (i'm still "uneducated" I guess, not a subject I care enough about to read much on).

Soundwave was still more about stealth then being some loud stereo, the tape player was just so that he could play back information.

Like you said, it fits Blaster much better, since he was more about his music.

[Cheetatron]

He was not mobile as a tapedeck either, but g1 Soundwave is still one of the most popular TFs of all time.
An anomoly, he was the only roleplay sized tf that has sold well, probably didnt hurt that he got so much screentime on the show but none of that matters cause mass shifting is awfully cheesy and there will be no tiny alt mode to large robot conversions going on. how big is this super computer supposed to be

The point is to add variety. Not ALL the decepticons should be jets...thats boring.

A helicoptor is not a jet

Besides what is the point of transforming in the first place?There must be some reason to turn into something else, right?
Well I dunno speed, and disguise maybe, possibly why tf into a supercomputer of all things.
Soundwave is mobile as a robot.
But not inconspicuos, helicoptor fast, or airborne cause there wont be any anti-gravity "superman" flying

[Cheetatron]

Soundwave was still more about stealth then being some loud stereo, the tape player was just so that he could play back information.

Like you said, it fits Blaster much better, since he was more about his music.Here is how I saw it, a DB racing truck(on chrome) is a pretty inconspicuos alt mode for a homicidal robot killing machine.

It can also be seen as in concept. It can do the spying thing and use high decible audio based attacks. Sounds so loud and deadly they could destroy whole neighborhoods The way I figured it two huge twin sized speakers would sit in the truck bed they would tf into rumble and frenzy and/or form audio shoulder cannons for soundwave. I thought it was perfect a update there just happens to be better options for S.wave.

I didnt even think of blaster till hasbro, bay whatever thought to get with a coptor for S.wave. I guess i thought of Soundwave first because he takes precedence in my mind over Blaster.

[Golden Age]

It can do the spying thing and use high decible audio based attacks. Sounds so loud and deadly they could destroy whole neighborhoods The way I figured it two huge twin sized speakers would sit in the truck bed they would tf into rumble and frenzy and/or form audio shoulder cannons for soundwave..

lets agree that Soundwave is a cool character.
:cool:

[Cheetatron]

lets agree that Soundwave is a cool character.
:cool:no ones ever lied about that :)

[Shepp]

in my opinion, soundwave should be some type of surveilance van/truck. or maybe a news truck. but its gotta be blocky. with a big flat window in the front. also, modular equipment in said truck could transform into rumble, ravage, etc.

a chopper could work, but i've always associated soundwave with being a blocky character as opposed to sleek (it kind of fits his uncrazzimatic personality too). but now the chopper's out of the question now so we're left wondering what he'll be.

OR, here's an idea which would require more thought, have soundwave as a tape-recorder sized unit which changes into a small robot. the tape recorder unit can take over vehicles and re-format them into a cybertron sized transformable body. that keeps soundwave's form more or less G1-ish and being non-vehicular, and compensates for mass changing while allowing him to battle with the full sized bots. also fits him better as a spy because he can abandon the re-formatted body to report back, or ditch it if its no longer convenient. but then this would eliminate the possibility of having any of his lackeys. but from a longer fictional standpoint, with soundwave like this we could see him resurrecting and piloting enemy corpses, really enhansing his spy abilities.

edit: scratch that last part. seems more of a G1 bombshell thing to do than a soundwave thing.

i'm fine with soundwave being a vehicle. and i'm looking forward to what they're going to pick.

[tikgnat]

IMO Soundwave should at be a spy aircraft of some sort. I think the idea of a helicopter is a good one, the whole Soundwave name could have been brought about by him able to use his rotors to create a 'soundwave' or something.

I dunno, if Megatron is going to be a tank, then perhaps SW could be a custom military chopper that can transport him? That sort of brings along Megs dependency on others, (ie, he needs other TF's to shoot his alt mode).