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Cataclizm1
01-12-2006, 03:06 PM
Just a reminder for all the "Smallville" fans, tonight the new episodes start again. Well if you've seen any of the commercials for tonight's episode, they say that this will be the episode where Jor-El's prophecy comes true, and somebody close to Clark will die. Should be interesting. My money is on Jonathan Kent. :(

MegaPrime33
01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
SPoilers....




























According the synopsis of the show, Clark finds his father bruised and beaten by presumably someone who doesn't want him to be mayor. Also Lois' life is endangered....obviously it aint gonna be her so maybe Pa Kent. But know how stupid writers can be it's probably the dog.

Valkysas
01-12-2006, 03:27 PM
I dont want it to be either of the kents.

I would like it to be lois, as I hate her in smallville. but we all know thats impossible.

hey, maybe it will be a new character introduced in this episode just to die. they've done that before.

thefrozenred
01-12-2006, 03:32 PM
I hope it's Clark, then they can introduce the Kryptonian regeneration suit. :)

DevilzFan
01-12-2006, 03:35 PM
Obviously Lois, Lana, and Mr. and Mrs. Kent are safe. Unless this is deviating from Comics storyline even more.

thefrozenred
01-12-2006, 03:55 PM
Maybe Chloe (the blonde) dies? Or has that been "done" before?

rattrap007
01-12-2006, 04:08 PM
My money is on Chloe... She knows his secret.. Pete knew his secret and got written out. Chloe knows Clark's secret. She will be written out. Doubt they are gonna kill off Martha or Bo.. i mean Pa Kent

Valkysas
01-12-2006, 04:48 PM
I don't want chloe to go. the show needs to keep it's eyecandy.

Jux
01-12-2006, 05:35 PM
My money's on Pete Ross.

Omnibus Prime
01-12-2006, 06:43 PM
I don't want chloe to go. the show needs to keep it's eyecandy.

:sly:

You're talking about her Chiclet teeth right? Never thought she was all that attractive m'self...and her teeth bug me.
Wouldn't mind if it was her, but she already 'died' once.

I haven't really been keeping up with this season, but what's the status with Marsters/Brainiac? He was reportedly only going to be in a certain number of episodes this season, but nothing about the whole season. :peoples:

And if the advance episode reviews/synopses that I've read online are right, it's not Pa Kent.

Nephthys
01-12-2006, 08:38 PM
I don't want chloe to go. the show needs to keep it's eyecandy.
It will.There's Clark. :D

Jux
01-12-2006, 08:41 PM
:sly:

You're talking about her Chiclet teeth right? Never thought she was all that attractive m'self...and her teeth bug me.


She's got that "closet dyke" look going on.

Martha Kent is hotter than Chloe.

DevilzFan
01-12-2006, 09:01 PM
Okay...I just had it on in the backround...wasn't really paying attention. Who died? Didn't seem like anyone did.

Dragonclaw
01-12-2006, 09:01 PM
My money's on Pete Ross.
That was actually my first thought..."Hey Clark, I'm moving back to smallvi... *URK*"...DEAD! Someone close to Clark, and completely meaningless for future eps :)

Drake
01-12-2006, 09:05 PM
2 weeks from now some dies. It's the 100th episode.

Shaun_C
01-12-2006, 09:08 PM
I don't want chloe to go. the show needs to keep it's eyecandy.

It will.There's Clark. :D


That dandy for you Neph,you're a woman;)

But I'm a guy,and I want my Chloe to live damnit :D

Although if push came to shove I still got Lana and Lois :D

Omnibus Prime
01-12-2006, 09:40 PM
2 weeks from now some dies. It's the 100th episode.

Yeah, I read that on the Web site from before that has episode synopses a few eps in advance. "Someone close to Clark dies...etc. etc."

:peoples:

She's got that "closet dyke" look going on.
Martha Kent is hotter than Chloe.
:lol
I dunno about all that, but Lois sure as hell is. How could anybody rate Chiclet Girl above her? :sly:

LigerPrime
01-12-2006, 11:59 PM
Yeah, I read that on the Web site from before that has episode synopses a few eps in advance. "Someone close to Clark dies...etc. etc."

:peoples:


:lol
I dunno about all that, but Lois sure as hell is. How could anybody rate Chiclet Girl above her? :sly:

Yup! Totally agree with ya! In fact, I find her hotter than Lana!

thefrozenred
01-13-2006, 12:07 AM
So who died?

Wreckgar
01-13-2006, 12:41 AM
Pete Ross can't die. He becomes President in the comics.

Dragonclaw
01-13-2006, 12:42 AM
nobody..it'll be either at the very end of next week or the week after...Clark's at someones grave in the preview for the 100th ep.

Omnibus Prime
01-13-2006, 03:06 AM
Pete Ross can't die. He becomes President in the comics.


http://www.stoodio.com/images/thumb_meatwad.jpg Do what now?

MegaPrime33
01-13-2006, 07:53 AM
Hey look, no one died. That's some nice false information boys.

rattrap007
01-13-2006, 08:18 AM
Hey look, no one died. That's some nice false information boys.
Well the psycho political nutjobs did...

Tekkaman Blade
01-13-2006, 08:53 AM
If their using movie continuity there's a chance it could be johnathan as he died of a heart attack in the original movie
Chole not part of comic continuity so maybe her.
But the same goes for Lionel Luthor(It would be cool if Lex offed him)

Wreckgar
01-13-2006, 09:04 AM
http://www.stoodio.com/images/thumb_meatwad.jpg Do what now?
It seems the show is trying to tie into the comics as much as possible and the comics are trying to use some bits of the show. Recently Lex had a flashback where he talked about school in smallville.

Anyway, Luthor becomes president in the comics and Pete Ross was his vice president. When Batman and Superman took down Luthor, Pete Ross became president. However recently Pete was shown to be another villain named Ruin. This has also been proven false and right now I'm not sure if he stil is the President or not.

Lord Of Tetris
01-13-2006, 09:06 PM
:(

I saw this thread last night, didn't read it for fear of further spoilers, and excitedly watched Smallville, eagerly awaiting Lex's death. It was at the 8:58 mark, and there was a Lana and Clark scene in his attic, and my brother and I were shouting, "COME ON! IT'S DOWN TO CLARK AND LANA, AND CLARK ISN'T THE ONE WHO DIES. LANA! DIE, DAMN IT DIE!"

Then the credits rolled, and my brother looked at each other and we were like, "Um...is the 'death' supposed to be those 2 Lex Luthor fanboys? Lame."

Then I found out that this wasn't the "death" episode, after all.

And, yes, I'm well aware that Lex and Lana are off-limits for being killed. I teach a Batman class at Berkeley, and I'm pretty knowledged in the Superman mythology. One day in class, someone asked me who I thought was going to be killed, and I said I thought it was going to be Lex. With a straight face. No sarcasm. Mind you, I said this in a classroom filled with 30 college-age comic-book fans. My little joke got half the class to start squirming and twitching. It was like I blasphemed in church. My god, it was beautiful. And funny as hell.

Sometime this semester, if anyone asks me about Smallville, I have 2 responses ready for them:

"So wait, we all know that Lex grows up and leads the X-Men, right?" and "Well, just wait and see. I think the series finale twist is that Clark becomes Batman. Don't you read the comics?"

Dragonclaw
01-14-2006, 01:26 AM
"So wait, we all know that Lex grows up and leads the X-Men, right?" and "Well, just wait and see. I think the series finale twist is that Clark becomes Batman. Don't you read the comics?"


No, no, no...Clark becomes queen of the Amazons :lol

Batman class eh...guess Razorwire and I might see ya at Wondercon next month?

Lord Of Tetris
01-14-2006, 04:13 AM
Is Wondercon this science fiction/comic book convention like comic-con that's in SF sometime in February? I made vague plans to go with my friend to it (I think), but it was one of those, "So you want to come with me?" "Sure!" conversations. I guess I'll have to bug her about it again.

Boardwise
01-14-2006, 05:34 AM
Episodes wasn't bad, but I found 2 nitpick points in it.

First off, why did the pshyco girl suddenlt have a set of clippers in a campaing office of a university?

And secondally, when Clark visits Chloe he's waring a blue t-shirt and red jacket.
Get's the address of where the phone calls are coming from then next scene when he turns up there is waring something completly different, blue jacket and a shirt.

So, someone is terrorizing your father, you find out who it is and before going there nip home for a change of clothes before confronting them?

As for who dies.... heheheheh.
I know who doesn't die and possibly know who does :p

Dragonclaw
01-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Is Wondercon this science fiction/comic book convention like comic-con that's in SF sometime in February? I made vague plans to go with my friend to it (I think), but it was one of those, "So you want to come with me?" "Sure!" conversations. I guess I'll have to bug her about it again.

Yep, that's the one :)

And from what I've heard Chloe is safe (Unless the stories for eps 101 and on are a red herring :p )

Eradicator
01-14-2006, 05:05 PM
If their using movie continuity there's a chance it could be johnathan as he died of a heart attack in the original movie
Chole not part of comic continuity so maybe her.
But the same goes for Lionel Luthor(It would be cool if Lex offed him)

I could see him dieing, but not as part Jor-El's threat since I don't think Clark really cares for him. He may not hate him, but he doesn't love him. That is unless they have Jor-El inhabiting Lionel again and just off him that way. Although, my guess is still that Lex will kill him and finally become completely evil. He's getting close now but not quite there.

I am starting to think Lionel possesed by Jor-El will be the one who kills whover it is simply because I don't think Jor-El could do it any other way. Either that or it will be something Clark himself does it where his actions or maybe inactions cause the death.

Jux
01-14-2006, 07:54 PM
It's been said before in this thread, but I'll toss it out there again ... it wasn't the 100th episode. Someone does indeed die in the 100th episode, but last night was ep 98. Our buddy just made a glitch in the title, that's all.


Overall, good ep. I like the shift to the political storyline, and the Martha/Lionel bit at the end. I didn't care for that scene between Lana and Clark at the end ... it was just a BIT over the top. "What if another ship landed, and someone has been living among us this whole time?" C'mon.

Cheetatron
01-15-2006, 01:23 AM
:sly:

You're talking about her Chiclet teeth right? Never thought she was all that attractive m'self...and her teeth bug me.
ROFLOL The actress that plays chloe is atractive its just her smile, its too gummy if she fixed that up she would be an 8, 8.5, 9

Jux
01-15-2006, 01:48 AM
ROFLOL The actress that plays chloe is atractive its just her smile, its too gummy if she fixed that up she would be an 8, 8.5, 9

6-7, at best.

Fairy Princess
01-15-2006, 02:10 AM
Pete's also white in the comics. I don't think the show is "in continuity".

Hot Rodimus
01-15-2006, 02:53 AM
I teach a Batman class at Berkeley,

Wait, what..?

Chaos Muffin
01-15-2006, 03:06 AM
There's Batman classes?

Omnibus Prime
01-15-2006, 04:29 AM
There's Batman classes?

At Berkeley, eh? Buncha liberal rich kids...I guess it kinda makes sense. :sly:

UT's more of a Spider-Man school I think. There actually is a LotR class though. :rolleyes:

Fairy Princess
01-15-2006, 02:37 PM
SO wait, in a few weeks there's an Episode called "Cyborg" with a guest star who's character is anmed "Victor Stone"????

thefrozenred
01-15-2006, 02:40 PM
At Berkeley, eh? Buncha liberal rich kids...I guess it kinda makes sense. :sly:

UT's more of a Spider-Man school I think. There actually is a LotR class though. :rolleyes:

Is there a University of Texas college system? Like UTD (University of Texas Dallas), UTH (U of Texas Houston), etc? Or is it just UTD?

Boardwise
01-15-2006, 02:57 PM
SO wait, in a few weeks there's an Episode called "Cyborg" with a guest star who's character is anmed "Victor Stone"????

Apparently so.

rattrap007
01-15-2006, 03:40 PM
SO wait, in a few weeks there's an Episode called "Cyborg" with a guest star who's character is anmed "Victor Stone"????
Booyah!

Prowl2000
01-16-2006, 09:32 AM
Overall, good ep. I like the shift to the political storyline, and the Martha/Lionel bit at the end. I didn't care for that scene between Lana and Clark at the end ... it was just a BIT over the top. "What if another ship landed, and someone has been living among us this whole time?" C'mon.

Personally, I'm tired of Lana's character. They've squeezed all the water out of that spounge. But she won't die because she's central to the story. I'm just glad they are back on with the new episodes. When is Clark going to fly? We need more of that.

Lord Of Tetris
01-17-2006, 02:26 AM
At Berkeley, eh? Buncha liberal rich kids...I guess it kinda makes sense. :sly:

UT's more of a Spider-Man school I think. There actually is a LotR class though. :rolleyes:


Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not liberal, and I wouldn't describe myself as a "rich kid," either. A lot of my peers are "liberal," but with "rich kids," I think you're thinking of Stanford instead.

Here at Berkeley, we have a program called "Decal," of which I am a board member. To make a long story short, one of the purposes of Decal is to allow students to initiate their own classes.

Typically, a Decal class is available for a small amount of units (typically 1-3), and they are for p/np units. They do not count towards any degree requirement, but they do count towards graduation.

Students have to go through a VERY rigorous standardization process when they want to begin a class, so it's not like ANYBODY can teach a class on ANYTHING. In all honesty, I think the educational standards of a Decal class are generally pretty much of a high caliber. In my experience as a board member, for every 10 ideas, maybe 1 class actually makes it to fruition, while the other 9 proposals are rejected. So if you HAVE a Decal class at all, you're made of some pretty stern stuff.

Mind you, they won't let students teach "serious" topics like (for example) Advanced Calculus, but there might be Decals on (for example) the history of Middle Earth, Dessert Cooking, etc.

If anyone cares, the website for my class is www.decal.org/batman

And yes, I'm a student. I graduate in December 2006. If there's a chance that you might want to take this class, be here before I graduate. There's a good chance (I'd say...80%?) that someone's going to continue to teach when me and the other student-teachers for Batman class graduate (there's 3 of us teaching the same class right now), but this is not certain.

Cataclizm1
01-26-2006, 09:03 PM
Tonight's the night! It has aired on the east coast by now. Did anyone see the episode?

Acid Wing
01-26-2006, 09:10 PM
I did, and I was expecting either one of two guesses to die:
a) Chloe
b) Lionel Luthor

The end result of Clark's father dying in exchange for his son's action was a serious big WTF moment for me. Also, I found it too much of a parallel with Spiderman's Uncle Ben death (if the event is permanent).

I mean, IF the show is following continuity, aren't both of Clark's parents supposed to be alive???

Zero Prime
01-26-2006, 09:20 PM
I did, and I was expecting either one of two guesses to die:
a) Chloe
b) Lionel Luthor

The end result of Clark's father dying in exchange for his son's action was a serious big WTF moment for me. Also, I found it too much of a parallel with Spiderman's Uncle Ben death (if the event is permanent).

I mean, IF the show is following continuity, aren't both of Clark's parents supposed to be alive???

Yes and no. In the original Superman comics they both die before Clark goes to Metropolis. I don't think they were even mentioned in the movies. But still, WTF. Regardless, Johnathan would have died any ways because of his heart and that fight. But now Clark will feal guilty.

Primal
01-26-2006, 09:21 PM
I mean, IF the show is following continuity, aren't both of Clark's parents supposed to be alive???In the original Superman movie, Jonathan Kent died and the new movie will also only have Martha Kent.

Both parents are only alive in the comic books.

rattrap007
01-26-2006, 09:35 PM
*poors out a beer for Pa Kent*
By Bo Duke... we hardly knew ya...


Bet Martha becomes senator now...

Acid Wing
01-26-2006, 09:35 PM
In the original Superman movie, Jonathan Kent died and the new movie will also only have Martha Kent.

Both parents are only alive in the comic books.

Ahhh, thanks for the clarification Primal.:)

I've lately been only following comic continuity. Have to go checkout the original Supes movie to find that tidibit again.

rattrap007
01-26-2006, 10:39 PM
In the original Superman movie, Jonathan Kent died and the new movie will also only have Martha Kent.

Both parents are only alive in the comic books

and in the Animated Series, and on Lois and Clark...


Edit: God i hate forgetting to quote posts...

Omnibus Prime
01-26-2006, 11:02 PM
Lame.

The pre-credits sequence where he tells Lana everything was a little too much blatant "she's gonna die" foreshadowing. After he went back to save her, Pa Kent seemed like the next obvious choice.

Bleh. I would rather Lana have stayed dead, bloody annoying character at this point. Would have been the perfect final wedge between Lex/Clark, what with Lex seeing Clark's speed and Clark blaming Lex for Lana's death. That would have worked had this been the first in a cascade of events in the final season, but they're on for one or two more.

SubotaiBaghatur
01-27-2006, 12:29 AM
Can someone recap the ep for me, I only caught the last 15 minutes...

He told lana the truth?
Lex saw something?

Mike
01-27-2006, 01:20 AM
yep, but then clark went back in time and changed it all

so lana died, but didn't stay dead.. BOO!!!!

lex saw clark run at super speed, but then forgot

then Bo died :(

basically what happened is, clark told lana his secret, showed her the ice castle and asked her to marry him. she said yes eventually. Bo (pa kent) won the election, and lana went to visit lex. lex ended up chasing lana in a speeding car chase, and lana smashed into a bus and died.

clark didn't like that, so he went back to the ice castle and talked to his real dad (not Bo) and got a crystal to go back in time.

basically the same thing happens, except clark saves lana by stopping the bus from hitting her. then Bo gets in a fight with lionel towards the end of the episode and has a heart attack, and dies after kicking lionels ass.

SubotaiBaghatur
01-27-2006, 01:42 AM
Thankyuh Mike, thankyuh very much.

Ramberk Magnus
01-27-2006, 02:48 AM
So for deviating off the topic but Tetris mentioned Decal. I taught a Street Fighter and Business class at Berkeley as a Decal course. Uh huh. We even got to play a little SF in class.

If you can convince a professor to sign your paper work, you can teach just about anything at Cal.

Cataclizm1
01-27-2006, 02:50 AM
I just saw the ep. Highlights included Clark flying with lana in his arms, Chloe's comment about rotaing the earth on it's axis to reverse time (1st movie reference), and Clark stopping the bus from hitting Lana just in time. I'm kinda surprised Pa kent died-- Surprised they went against current comic continuity. I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to bring back Jonathan to life later. But if they don't, R.I.P. Jonathan. You were a good man. :(

P.S. Whoever directed this episode needs to direct ALL of them.

Lord Of Tetris
01-27-2006, 03:03 AM
So for deviating off the topic but Tetris mentioned Decal. I taught a Street Fighter and Business class at Berkeley as a Decal course. Uh huh. We even got to play a little SF in class.

If you can convince a professor to sign your paper work, you can teach just about anything at Cal.

^^^Shhh! :)

About the episode:

One complaint I had about this episode was that the writing could've been better. I don't like that, no matter what, it seemed like Jonathan Kent was going to die. In Condition 1, Jonathan got the phone call, then Lana died. In Condition 2, Jonathan got the phone call, then Lana didn't die. Seemed like he was going to die either way. If I was writing this episode, I'd have made it so that Clark would've been more directly responsible for Jonathan's death.

That said, I still think Superman 1 had the best Jonathan Kent death. None of this mystical/time traveling crap. Just look at Bruce Wayne's or Peter Parker's parents/uncle. Not EVERY event has to be on a cosmic, predetermined, mysterious scale. Sometimes a death is just a death.

On a side note, one of my friends taped the episode because he had work. He hadn't seen the episode yet. I had a pretty fun time tormenting him with fake spoilers. I'd say things with a deadly serious, spoilery tone of voice, but I said things like:

"Did you know that on tonight's episode of Smallville, Lex is bald?"
"Wow. When Clark put on that bat-mask at the end, and that bat-cape. Wow."

He got really pissed when I'd say the first half of the sentence, then he'd calm down when I finished the sentence. Then he got mad all over again for pretending to spoil it. Yeah, I'm pretty sadistic...

Omnibus Prime
01-27-2006, 04:00 AM
^^^Shhh! :)

About the episode:

One complaint I had about this episode was that the writing could've been better. I don't like that, no matter what, it seemed like Jonathan Kent was going to die. In Condition 1, Jonathan got the phone call, then Lana died. In Condition 2, Jonathan got the phone call, then Lana didn't die. Seemed like he was going to die either way. If I was writing this episode, I'd have made it so that Clark would've been more directly responsible for Jonathan's death.


Ah see, but I remember thinking the first go-around...why would Bo Kent leave his victory party and be driving on the same road as the accident? In the first scenario, he never makes it to the farm, never has the showdown with Lionel and doesn't have the heart attack..at least, not that night. There is the question of whether it would have still happened say, the following Tuesday or something. :redface2:


S'all fucking Lana's fault anyway. WTF was she going over to Lex's for anyway, right after Jonathan won? Fucking whore.

Eradicator
01-27-2006, 04:24 AM
It was a great ep. Once I saw the phone call part I could pretty well tell Jonaton was going to die. It was the first part that completley threw me. I kept thinking this has to be a dream sequence, but it never did. I really like that he actually flew even if the time-travel did nullify it in a way.

The pacing did seem a bit rushed in it. Lana's death just happened. I was kind of expecting Jonathon to die, but the heart attack seemed a tiny bit sudden too. They show him breating heavily after decking Lionel, but other than that the attack seemed to come out of nowhere. I know his health has been an ongoing issue in the series, but it still seem out of the blue.

I really liked that Jonathon got to die after hitting Lionel. He basically did something he's wanted to do since season one.

Actually until I actually saw Lionel I still expected Lana to die. I first thought Lex was going to kill her the second time.

LigerPrime
01-27-2006, 04:46 AM
Ahhh, thanks for the clarification Primal.:)

I've lately been only following comic continuity. Have to go checkout the original Supes movie to find that tidibit again.

Didn't read the whole thread but didn't both Kents die in the movie?

Eradicator
01-27-2006, 05:03 AM
Didn't read the whole thread but didn't both Kents die in the movie?

They both did die by the end of the movies, but I don't think his mother died in the first one. They only mention in in conversation about his mother dying. It was a comment that either Clark or Lois mentions in passing. I'm wanting to say it was in III. I know they didn't show her death or her funeral like they did with his father's.

gil
01-27-2006, 12:34 PM
I didn't get to see it because the show College Womans Basketball on the channell Smallville is on, so Smallville get's bumbed.

Anyway, So, does Lana still know Clark's an alien?

Dragonclaw
01-27-2006, 01:55 PM
No, because of the time intervention he never told her...

Lord Of Tetris
01-27-2006, 04:59 PM
Ah see, but I remember thinking the first go-around...why would Bo Kent leave his victory party and be driving on the same road as the accident? In the first scenario, he never makes it to the farm, never has the showdown with Lionel and doesn't have the heart attack..at least, not that night. There is the question of whether it would have still happened say, the following Tuesday or something. :redface2:


S'all fucking Lana's fault anyway. WTF was she going over to Lex's for anyway, right after Jonathan won? Fucking whore.

Good eye. I guess it was an either/or after all. Sucks that Jonathan's dead. I always thought he was one of the better actors on this show.

Cataclizm1
01-27-2006, 06:31 PM
Maybe Johnathan will still make appearances on the show, as the ghostly fatherly advice figure...sorta like how Obi won did to Luke after he died.

rattrap007
01-27-2006, 06:44 PM
I didn't get to see it because the show College Womans Basketball on the channell Smallville is on, so Smallville get's bumbed.

Anyway, So, does Lana still know Clark's an alien?
No...

Basically in the first half he tells her. She says yes. Lex calls her, she dies. Clark wants to save her. Jor-el turns back time to before Clark shows Lana. Thus she doesn't know..

Jux
01-27-2006, 09:55 PM
holeeeee shit.

Pretty good episode, but I think this will ultimately be Smallville's "Jump the Shark" episode.

SubotaiBaghatur
01-27-2006, 11:31 PM
The season five premiere was pretty atrocious, way too much happened in that episode for it to be entertaining.

Acid Wing
01-28-2006, 12:01 AM
Besides the sad passing of Bo Kent, I did find it funny that they poked fun at one of the old Superman movies with Chloe asking Clark whether he was to go back in time by reversing the Earth's axis.:)

DevilzFan
01-28-2006, 12:26 AM
holeeeee shit.

Pretty good episode, but I think this will ultimately be Smallville's "Jump the Shark" episode.

Season 3 premier was the "Jump the Shark" for me.

misterd
01-28-2006, 03:49 PM
Obviously Lois, Lana, and Mr. and Mrs. Kent are safe. Unless this is deviating from Comics storyline even more.

First, which comics continuity? This series has borrowed from all continuities, I think - the Silver Age (Clark's crush on Lana and friendship with Lex), Modern Age (Clark as football hero), and movie (the Kryptonian Fortress), with a sprinkling of things that are unique (Lionel, Chloe, meteor freaks).

OF course much of the fun in the series is seeing how it will get to what we recognize as a generic Superman continuity, so certain characters simply could not die, as they are alive in all continities - Clark, Lex, Lois, Lana, Pete, Perry, Brainiac.

Chloe and Lionel were options because they're unique the show, and thus can have any number of fates. I still think both will die before the series is out, but I thought now was too soon, and it would remove one of Clark's peers, which he has few of now.

Ma and Pa Kent are both dead in the Silver Age continuity, both alive in current, and Pa alone is dead in the films. With the film coming up, and the established history of heart trouble, Pa was also a good bet.

So, before I watched it today, my money was on one of the two fathers (or both) dying. I must say I am disappointed that it was Jonathan. I really enjoyed his work on the show, and his relationship with Clark was in many ways the heart of the series. I think it's going to be tough without him. At the very least it'll feel different.

Valkysas
01-28-2006, 03:54 PM
I think the show is ruined now. really. I as really hoping to see how BOTH his parents would take to clark becoming the world's most famous hero.

Omnibus Prime
01-28-2006, 04:22 PM
I must say I am disappointed that it was Jonathan. I really enjoyed his work on the show, and his relationship with Clark was in many ways the heart of the series. I think it's going to be tough without him. At the very least it'll feel different.

^^^

Reiterated for veracity.

misterd
01-28-2006, 07:14 PM
I think the show is ruined now. really. I as really hoping to see how BOTH his parents would take to clark becoming the world's most famous hero.

I've certainly had mixed feeling to the series from the start, so I have little confidence that they will spin something good from this. However, Jonathan's death will force Clark to step up a bit, force him to mature a little faster than maybe he would like. This gives the writers opportunities to take Clark to the next level in his development, so I am not about to write the series off yet.

Ironically, by keeping Lionel around, I think they are stifling Lex's growth. Both Clark and Lex are destined to become greater than their parents, but now Clark doesn't have much holding him back.

misterd
01-28-2006, 07:22 PM
Ah see, but I remember thinking the first go-around...why would Bo Kent leave his victory party and be driving on the same road as the accident? In the first scenario, he never makes it to the farm, never has the showdown with Lionel and doesn't have the heart attack..at least, not that night. There is the question of whether it would have still happened say, the following Tuesday or something. :redface2:


S'all fucking Lana's fault anyway. WTF was she going over to Lex's for anyway, right after Jonathan won? Fucking whore.

Lex was, and is, a friend, so there's nothing at all wrong with her wanting to console him in an hour of need. Certainly the Kents were doing fine, and thus were less in need of her company. And given her reaction in the second go 'round, she's a bit oblivious to Lex's crush.

As for Jonathan's death, it was his heart, which has been faulty for the past 2 seasons. There was a good chance that he was going to pop the next time he got worked up, which tends to happen every third episode anyway. Odds are he would have been dead within a year, no matter what happened with Lana.

Acid Wing
01-28-2006, 09:58 PM
I've certainly had mixed feeling to the series from the start, so I have little confidence that they will spin something good from this. However, Jonathan's death will force Clark to step up a bit, force him to mature a little faster than maybe he would like. This gives the writers opportunities to take Clark to the next level in his development, so I am not about to write the series off yet.

Ironically, by keeping Lionel around, I think they are stifling Lex's growth. Both Clark and Lex are destined to become greater than their parents, but now Clark doesn't have much holding him back.

To me, I think another side effect would cause Clark to be more of farm boy once again, since it would be up to him and Martha Kent to take care of the operations of the place.

Pravus Prime
01-31-2006, 05:57 PM
I've been watching the series, with pretty much 0 hope for the series, I think it fell apart way back when Clark destroyed his own spaceship. I probably would've given up on the series, but I heard stuff about it being the "last season", and them getting some comic writers in, so I kept watching the train of a series.

And it finally seemed to be moving, but this episode was atrocious, talk about a razor thin plot. Very lame.