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Razerwire
01-06-2006, 03:11 PM
Anyone planning on watching this movie??? I'm curious, but normally movies full of glorified gore don't sit well with me so I'm not sure if I want to spend the money to go watch it...

But I do like Tarantino films, which is why I'm curious...

Joe Moore
01-06-2006, 03:15 PM
This is not a Tarantino film. This is an Eli Roth film. Tarantino just threw his name behind it to get the guy some recognition. Nothing more.

That said, I was a very big fan of Roth's first film, Cabin Fever. Everything I have read and heard about Hostel is very positive. It's getting great reviews from Horror fans and mainstream critics, something incredebly rare for a horror flick.

Cheetatron
01-06-2006, 03:16 PM
Never heard of it. I should look it up

drippy
01-06-2006, 03:18 PM
It's also not "torture porn" (what you were alluding to) according to my main movie man Devin.

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=reviews&id=5616

I’ve heard the movie referred to as torture porn. This made me hopeful, and I was looking forward to something like Ilsa: She-Wolf of the Hostel, maybe. I thought that Eli Roth was the latest guy to jump on the current 70s exploitation bandwagon, a bandwagon I have gone on the record as supporting. It turns out that Hostel is not torture porn at all, and it only has anything to do with 70s exploitation in that every gory film ever made owes a debt to those movies. What Roth is really taking on is Takashi Miike - so explicitly that he has the Japanese director make a cameo appearance in the film.

Super_Megatron
01-06-2006, 03:34 PM
I'm interested in seeing it. It's intrigued me.

DevilzFan
01-06-2006, 03:37 PM
That said, I was a very big fan of Roth's first film, Cabin Fever. Everything I have read and heard about Hostel is very positive. It's getting great reviews from Horror fans and mainstream critics, something incredebly rare for a horror flick.

Cabin Fever was awesome. The kid from Boy Meets World and the Jock-guy had me laughing so hard.

Then again, 100% of "horror" movies make me laugh hysterically.

Omnibus Prime
01-06-2006, 03:44 PM
This is not a Tarantino film. This is an Eli Roth film. Tarantino just threw his name behind it to get the guy some recognition. Nothing more.

That said, I was a very big fan of Roth's first film, Cabin Fever.

Ditto on the first part.

Massive disagreement with the second. Cabin Fever sucked..hard. The grisly effects were good; the premise was good, but the execution was just horrible. I'd rate it just below Wrong Turn on the suck-o-meter.
First time I saw the trailer for Hostel, I was :peoples: Then I saw it was written and directed by Eli Roth, and went :rolleyes: I'll wait for cable, maaaybe a renter.

Everything I have read and heard about Hostel is very positive. It's getting great reviews from Horror fans and mainstream critics, something incredebly rare for a horror flick.

And how much of that is because Tarantino's name was stuck in front of it?

drippy
01-06-2006, 03:57 PM
And how much of that is because Tarantino's name was stuck in front of it?

Devin's review (see link above) doesn't even mention Tarantino.

MegaPrime33
01-06-2006, 04:00 PM
The only familiarity I have with this movie is from the commercials for it. It looks nothing more than people torturing other people. That's just sick to me. Why would I want to watch that?

The_Bardock
01-06-2006, 04:25 PM
I'm going to go see it

Wreckgar
01-06-2006, 06:36 PM
Definately on my must see list.

MasterOfPuppets
01-06-2006, 06:58 PM
The only familiarity I have with this movie is from the commercials for it. It looks nothing more than people torturing other people. That's just sick to me. Why would I want to watch that?
Exactly my thoughts. I just can't seem to understand the mentallity of people when they actually want to watch something like this.

Scantron
01-06-2006, 07:57 PM
Definitely going to pass on this one. Besides the fact it doesn't really seem to have a plot, judging by the previews, I refuse to watch anything that is evenly remotely connected to Quentin Tarantino.

Streck
01-06-2006, 08:16 PM
Exactly my thoughts. I just can't seem to understand the mentallity of people when they actually want to watch something like this.
What's wrong with taking pleasure in the pain of others?

Dusty
01-06-2006, 08:41 PM
And how much of that is because Tarantino's name was stuck in front of it?

Nope.
This movie has been anticipated by hardcore horror fans (i.e. people like me) for a couple years now. All Tarantino did was basically say to Roth "Dude, this is a great concept! I'll produce it!". Its totally written and directed by Eli Roth.

And while you didn't like Cabin fever, the movie was a HUGE hit in the horror fandom, which is why people are anticipating this movie. Not because Tarantino decided to slap his name on it.

Honestly I would say if you are just a Tarantino fan, you will miss the point. If you are a fan of Takashi Miike's films, then this might be more your style. Its not "quirky horror" like Cabin Fever, its supposed to be "naked chicks with lots of brutal gore horror". Don't like that style? Save your dough. :D

I have been waiting for this since I walked out of Cabin Fever, so I'm definitely seeing it. Can't wait!

-Dusty

Frognal
01-06-2006, 08:59 PM
The only familiarity I have with this movie is from the commercials for it. It looks nothing more than people torturing other people. That's just sick to me. Why would I want to watch that?

I'm thinking similar thoughts. See I'm not a fan of horror that could actually happen. I likes teh supernatural/mutant/science/alien/unknown origin/etc monsters.

MasterOfPuppets
01-06-2006, 09:08 PM
What's wrong with taking pleasure in the pain of others?
Nothing as long as it's not gory sick shit. The way comedy movies make humour out of pain of the main character, wether it be physical or mental pain is funny.
I'm thinking similar thoughts. See I'm not a fan of horror that could actually happen.
Totally agree. It's not difficult to imagine that there might be real sick minded people in the world that do these things wether they be in the present or past events. Same for the "based on a true story" movies, the thought of these things actually having happened in the past is spine tingling.

But then again I'm not a fan of horror movies in the first place, I just like posting. :D

Omnibus Prime
01-06-2006, 10:19 PM
Devin's review (see link above) doesn't even mention Tarantino.

And? Other reviewers have.

Nope.
This movie has been anticipated by hardcore horror fans (i.e. people like me) for a couple years now. All Tarantino did was basically say to Roth "Dude, this is a great concept! I'll produce it!". Its totally written and directed by Eli Roth.

And while you didn't like Cabin fever, the movie was a HUGE hit in the horror fandom, which is why people are anticipating this movie. Not because Tarantino decided to slap his name on it.

Honestly I would say if you are just a Tarantino fan, you will miss the point. If you are a fan of Takashi Miike's films, then this might be more your style. Its not "quirky horror" like Cabin Fever, its supposed to be "naked chicks with lots of brutal gore horror". Don't like that style? Save your dough. :D

I have been waiting for this since I walked out of Cabin Fever, so I'm definitely seeing it. Can't wait!

-Dusty

I like Tarantino, but didn't like Kill Bill. I like horror movies, but wanted my fucking money back after Cabin Fever.
I understand the difference between producer and writer/director, thanks. I simply implied that some positive reviews, particularly those that name-drop Tarantino, might have a little more to do with their golden-boy's involvement (i.e., he thought this was a good idea; he must be right) than Roth's resume, which is less than stellar.

drippy
01-07-2006, 12:08 AM
And? Other reviewers have.

You made it sound like everyone that gave it a positive review did it based on Tarantino's name. I gave you an example contrary to this position.

*shrug*

Razerwire
01-07-2006, 12:53 AM
This is not a Tarantino film. This is an Eli Roth film. Tarantino just threw his name behind it to get the guy some recognition. Nothing more.

That said, I was a very big fan of Roth's first film, Cabin Fever. Everything I have read and heard about Hostel is very positive. It's getting great reviews from Horror fans and mainstream critics, something incredebly rare for a horror flick.
Ahh... I was confused at that Roth/Tarantino thing...

Frognal
01-07-2006, 12:58 AM
Totally agree. It's not difficult to imagine that there might be real sick minded people in the world that do these things wether they be in the present or past events. Same for the "based on a true story" movies, the thought of these things actually having happened in the past is spine tingling.


Bit of a misunderstanding. I'm not a fan of horror that could actually happen because it's just not scary to me. I like horror films, but "realistic" ones just don't so it for me.

Omnibus Prime
01-07-2006, 02:23 AM
You made it sound like everyone that gave it a positive review did it based on Tarantino's name. I gave you an example contrary to this position.

*shrug*

No I didn't. I said 'how much of that (how many of the positive reviews) is due to Tarantino's name...'
*shrug*

Random Autobot
01-07-2006, 12:05 PM
Saw this, and it's quite a good film. While there is gore, it's not done in a typical fashion. The film is smarter than that. Basically, Hostel ends up being a satirical indictment of the "american" tourist. it treats the two idiot backpackers with a certain level of contempt, and it works. I would reccomend it.

CrackerBoy
01-07-2006, 12:38 PM
I'll be renting it.

Atomsplitter
01-07-2006, 01:16 PM
The story was almost non-existant, but the gore was good. Probably some of the most realistic stuff i've seen.

ambushbug74
01-07-2006, 01:22 PM
I'm gonna see this. For pointers, if nothing else.

Dusty
01-07-2006, 01:43 PM
I simply implied that some positive reviews, particularly those that name-drop Tarantino, might have a little more to do with their golden-boy's involvement (i.e., he thought this was a good idea; he must be right) than Roth's resume, which is less than stellar.

I don't doubt that at all, all I was saying that even though you did not like Cabin fever, it made 100 million in the box office (which for R rated horror is pretty damn decent) and he's become a golden boy in horror fandom since Cabin Fever came out. Many *many* reviewers have been awaiting his 2nd project to see if it would be great...or a failure.

So while I dont doubt some reviewers are merely not aware of the build-up to the movie, so they name-drop Tarantino....there *is* hype and anticipation based off of Eli Roth's "less than stellar resume".

Again, I don't have anything against you for not like Cabin Fever or even the director himself....just saying *lots* of people disagree and there is definitely a hot movie for horror fans because of that.

-Dusty

Omnibus Prime
01-07-2006, 02:27 PM
I don't doubt that at all, all I was saying that even though you did not like Cabin fever, it made 100 million in the box office (which for R rated horror is pretty damn decent) and he's become a golden boy in horror fandom since Cabin Fever came out. Many *many* reviewers have been awaiting his 2nd project to see if it would be great...or a failure.

So while I dont doubt some reviewers are merely not aware of the build-up to the movie, so they name-drop Tarantino....there *is* hype and anticipation based off of Eli Roth's "less than stellar resume".

Again, I don't have anything against you for not like Cabin Fever or even the director himself....just saying *lots* of people disagree and there is definitely a hot movie for horror fans because of that.

-Dusty

Actually, I don't have any problem with Roth as a director based on Cabin Fever. The gore and the overall directing was fine. It was the writing.
If Hostel was 'directed by Eli Roth,' I'd be more interested than I am with it being 'written and directed by Eli Roth.'


I don't doubt Cabin Fever's appeal with many horror fans. But it didn't make $100 million in theaters.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cabinfever.htm

It did more than cover it's production/marketing costs, morseo when DVD rental/sales are factored in, I'm sure. I'm actually surprised that it only cost $1.5 million to make. That makes the effects/gore 'n' such even more impressive.

rattrap007
01-07-2006, 02:41 PM
Cabin Fever was awesome. The kid from Boy Meets World and the Jock-guy had me laughing so hard.

Then again, 100% of "horror" movies make me laugh hysterically.
I'll pass because 99% of horror movies make me laugh. Especially ones with a magical killer like Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, Pumpkinhead, etc. Even ones with out those make me laugh. They are horrible in acting most of the time. The scares are not that great. Never been scared nor lost sleep because of a horror movie since i was 10 or so...

TrickyDisco
01-07-2006, 05:59 PM
I'll pass because 99% of horror movies make me laugh. Especially ones with a magical killer like Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, Pumpkinhead, etc. Even ones with out those make me laugh. They are horrible in acting most of the time. The scares are not that great. Never been scared nor lost sleep because of a horror movie since i was 10 or so...

Hey, so to you it'll be a comedy. :p

But seriously, I've been hearing so much about this movie for the past six months or so because Eli Roth originally got the concept idea for Cabin Fever from a backpacking trek here in Iceland, and when he got Tarantino on for his second film, along with some Icelandic movie connections, of course all of the local media hailed the pair as the next best thing.

I have yet to go and see this film, even thought it's been in theatres here for weeks, guess it's just my way of going against the local mainstream or something...

Still, most horror flicks amuse me. I've loved the nightmare on Elm Street series for years now, and it usually takes something severe to make me flinch, so maybe this film will deliver.

Am I even making any sense? :stick:

Chaos Muffin
01-07-2006, 06:54 PM
Plan on seeing it. Gotta see why that dude cuts his toe off now.

Looks pretty cool, reminds me of Saw. Will probably end up seeing it on dvd since I rarely get my ass to the movies anymore. lazy

Dusty
01-08-2006, 05:01 PM
I don't doubt Cabin Fever's appeal with many horror fans. But it didn't make $100 million in theaters.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cabinfever.htm


I'm sorry you are right, I did misquote that. I was reading an interview recently, and I thought he said 100 for some reason. The point was that it did do financially well for an independant horror movie (horror movies traditionally dont make too much in the box office...and even 15 million isoften considered decent).


Edit:
http://joblo.com/index.php?id=9860

OKay so I didn't misquote him, but I misread his tone. he's obviously exagerating in the part that he said 100 million. Just wanted to make sure I wasnt insane haha...
-Dusty

The_Bardock
01-22-2006, 03:05 PM
I finally got around to seeing this movie and what a letdown. I was bored out of my mind for most of it and was completely tired of seeing random topless women for no reason by the first 10 minutes.

TheIncredibleHulk
01-22-2006, 05:54 PM
I finally got around to seeing this movie and what a letdown. I was bored out of my mind for most of it and was completely tired of seeing random topless women for no reason by the first 10 minutes.

I agree. Not what I expected. I think it pretty much sucked. We saw it last night, and I wish I could have gotten my money back. Wasn't worth $16 for me and my wife to see it. Should have waited for DVD and even then, probably would have paid too much to rent it.

Chaos Muffin
01-22-2006, 07:03 PM
Horror movies rarely scare me when watching them. It's thinking about them later that night when the lights go out that get me.
Especially after that Blair Witch movie. Kept checking over my shoulder afterwards.

Yes I was one of those poor fools who thought it was real at first

Jason Voorhees is awesome. I'll always be a fan of the hockey mask.

Draven
01-22-2006, 09:18 PM
Its not "quirky horror" like Cabin Fever, its supposed to be "naked chicks with lots of brutal gore horror". Don't like that style? Save your dough. :D
I'm sold. As long as it's better than Cabin Fever; the only horrific thing about that film was how damn bad it was.