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IhsantheCursed
07-23-2008, 12:09 PM
NOTE: Now...by now, a few of you guys are probly saying : "This Ihsan guy is pretty full of himself. He always starts threads with his name in them." Let me tell you why I do that. Many of my threads are based off of personal opinion. By adding my name to the title, one KNOWS for sure that it is only my opinion. Just thought I would clear that up.

Ever had a Transformer that you just HATED transforming because the damn thing was SO hard to get transformed properly? Well..this Bud's for you then guys. Now i dont own the MP Starscream, but ive heard some stories there...so share them!

NOTE: The below statements reflect the Original Posters opinions only , and are not intended to offend, insult, or belittle anyone or anything..besides certain toys. My apologies if you are offended in anyway...that was not my intention.

ON TO THE SHOW!

#5. BW TM 2 Tigatron - Now I know there are those of you who have no problems with this guy...and I really dont either. However I sure did when I first bought him. Im the kinda guy who NEVER looks at the instructions of a toy. I just take it out and slowly , gently, and gracefully move each part until I get it right. This guy through me for a loop when attempting to get him back into his ALT. mode after Transforming him to robot. I know, I know, you dont think he belongs here...well...I do. :)

#4. MP/20th Annv. Prime - This is ONE of the coolest Transformers ever made, this is true, but he is by far , also one of the hardest bastards to get transformed. You need to be Mr. Olympia to get his damn legs pushed in properly, and I hate applying that much pressure to a toy. If you feel like your going to brake something while Transforming a T F ...something is wrong. These reasons are why he is the 4th hardest T F to transform.

#3. Alt./Binaltech Wheeljack - Hes a pain in the ass. Bottom line. I dont think anymore needs to be said here.

#2. Alt. "Battle" Ravage - Talk about a pain. This thing made me want throw it at the wall. At least until I realized the secret to getting this AWESOME looking toy transformed was all in how you position the legs/knees. The reason he is #3 on my list is because it took me a month to finally realize that. Now either im an idiot (which is a possibility I admit), or this is a hellacious mother to transform.

#1. MP Megatron - Too many little slideing parts and pins. Too big a hassle, and risk. Ive heard horrer stories about how some folks actually broke theirs attempting to transform theirs. Ive transformed mine twice (to gun, and then back to robot). I wont do it again.


Lets see Ya'lls lists!!!!

Opticron Primal
07-23-2008, 12:12 PM
Only have 2:

1.) Cybertron Crosswise/Smokescreen: My god. The world's first origami-former. But atleast it's a great figure.

2.) Movie Ironhide: The first few times is a bitch to get his arms lined up, get the pegs into the hole inside the cab, keeping the roof from collapsing in. But again, the figure is still really good.

WheelJacksWrkShp
07-23-2008, 01:31 PM
RID Ultra Magnus. I dread transforming him so much I just left it as Omega Prime for 3 years.

EvaUnit13
07-23-2008, 01:44 PM
Not really any order

Leader Brawl- everything has to be outta the way and be right in place for tank mode

Masterpiece Starscream- like Brawl and kinda time consuming

Armada Unicron- not exactly hard but the size makes it difficult to get everything right

RiD Galvatron- because I can't tell what the modes supposed to look like

Movie Leader Megatron- the legs, but now that I took off the wings it's a lot easier

eriku
07-23-2008, 01:46 PM
My MP Prime's legs slide in and out with no difficulty. Are you pressing the gas tanks in to release them?

For me I'd put WST Megatron at the very top of the list. He duplicates the complexity of the G1 original, only on a scale so incredibly small that it's almost impossible for my fat fingers to transform. And that's why I love it.

Taker
07-23-2008, 01:47 PM
#4. MP/20th Annv. Prime - You need to be Mr. Olympia to get his damn legs pushed in properly,


I've never had to apply such strenght here...I only move out those barrel thingies in his legs, and they just fall for themselves.

G1Wheeljack
07-23-2008, 01:48 PM
Out of what I own/have played with:
5.MP Prime
4.Movie Ironhide
3.Energon Mirage
2.Movie Leader Brawl
1.Armada Unicron

kllrwlf
07-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Armada Unicron
MP Megatron
Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Megatron (Dragon)

MushroomPrime
07-23-2008, 04:10 PM
I agree about Masterpiece Megatron.

nintendocon
07-23-2008, 04:18 PM
I would hate to argue, but MP-optimus is pretty easy. I think cybertron soundwave should replace him on the list...in my opinion, also movie ironhide is easy too, so yea. Also if you look at the instructions and take the time MP-megatron can also be easy..but again this is my opinion and it is not ment to start a fight or offend anyone.
OHHH and also the Optimus prime alternator is really hard

Gingerchris
07-23-2008, 04:22 PM
Getting most of the Alternators back into alt mode properly was always a git. As was trying to get some of the Beast Wars figures back into animal mode.

jtuarus
07-23-2008, 04:25 PM
seriously MP megs is a pain and a half. also not sure if ur just going for mainstream tfs but the darth vader death star was a pain to many panels needing to align just right. build king serious pain in my ass and also i seconed RID magnus. and last but not least magmatron god he was stupid hard and i was never ever really sure that i got him together right so my list in order is

5.buildking
4.death star vader
3. magmatron
2.RID magnus.
1. MP megatron

and a mention to other toy lines SOC combiners are always crazy hard dancouga,gunbuster etc. they look kewl as hell but you pay for that in more ways then 1.

Icetron
07-23-2008, 04:27 PM
I'm not sure if this counts but I was bored yesterday so I finally transformed my Robot Masters Lio Convoy, and it was such a pain because the beast mode looks so odd/crappy. Great toy though, just horrible alt mode. If only the original ones weren't so expensive I'd pick one up maybe just for the alt mode.

I also had trouble with MP Starscream since I haven't transformed it for a while (only twice since I bought it). It was really fun and fiddly! :lol

TM2 Megatron is also sorta hard for me, and he's a little fragile on the wings too which makes it worse since I cracked the wing slightly the one time I transformed it. Now I use instructions for fragile-looking toys. :(

Gingerchris
07-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Those Beast Wars combiners were kinda frustrating to assemble into one.

Renidragon
07-23-2008, 04:35 PM
In no particular order.

Movie Leader Megatron. OK, he's in order. He's just a pain in the butt to get his legs transformed correctly into alt mode. Difficult and unpleasant.

Movie Leader Prime is a little difficult, too, but he, however, is NOT a pain in the butt or unpleasant.

BT Tracks. I can't speak for the Alt. version, since I don't have it, but his legs are tough to get into place. I can do it, but it takes some effort.

I found Alt. Grimlock to be difficult, also. His arms were a pain for me (I know some people managed to figure out a trick to them, but I never did get it), and the panel that formed the bottom of the car kept falling off since the piece it attaches to that rotates around the waist was so damn tight.

Movie Leader Brawl is difficult to get into tank mode, because of all the pieces that need to be aligned just right.

There were others that were difficult at first, but have since become much easier, among them being RiD Sideburn and X-Brawn and Movie Ironhide. I have RiD Megatron, but I got him in a huge lot and haven't had time to mess with him too much.

I can't say I really understand how RiD Magnus is hard to transform... The ratchets in his knees and thighs are REALLY tight, but that's about the only hard thing I can personally think of... What part(s) of the transformation is so hard? I'm actually rather curious.

Shark Jumper
07-23-2008, 04:48 PM
MP Megatron hands down.

EvaUnit13
07-23-2008, 04:51 PM
With MP Prime you have to be pressing down on only 1 side of the barrel, pressing the whole thing down won't work

Crimson Primus
07-23-2008, 05:55 PM
I think you can just stop at MP Megs....:lol

Dropshot
07-23-2008, 06:13 PM
I don't own the mold, but I'm waiting for someone to mention Big Convoy/ Nemesis Prime.

scubaboy31
07-23-2008, 06:17 PM
funny, I don't find MP Megs to be a difficult transformation at all. It makes a lot of sense coming from the G1 figure, in a similar way that MP Prime relates to G1 Prime.

The Alt Mustang mould though... geeez, I know how he should work, but I always seem to have transform the arms wrong first, before I remember.

Cascadia
07-23-2008, 07:14 PM
the Mustang mold is mine

sixshot2K
07-23-2008, 07:17 PM
Out of all I own none there easy all dexelues

SydneyY
07-23-2008, 07:26 PM
BT-17
SWTF Death Star Vader

I can't put them back into their alt modes.

ninety
07-23-2008, 09:12 PM
funny, I don't find MP Megs to be a difficult transformation at all. It makes a lot of sense coming from the G1 figure, in a similar way that MP Prime relates to G1 Prime.

I'm in total agreement about Megs, I find him pretty intuitive to TF, I've never had a problem with him. Then again mine stands posed with his Fusion cannon raised, so I think i got lucky :D

Ani. SS however refuses to go into alt. mode, he just won't hold together at the back. I'm starting to prefer Activators SS, at least he'll TF!

Skywave
07-23-2008, 09:37 PM
No particular order:

Movie Leader Megatron: Obviously the legs, what the hell is wrong with them! I can't think about a kid transforming him without breaking him, or having fun trying. I just can't figure how the hell it's suposed to work, I do it by trial and error, and it take me ages!

MP Megatron: I can't say he's hard, but he sure is complex. It took me like 2 hours to transform, I wanted to be sure of what I was doing and trying not to break anything! But after getting to gun mode and then back to robot, I must say he's not THAT hard, just probably the most complex TFs I've got. And he's definitly more fun than movie megs!

Alternators Mustang (Wheeljack/Grimlock): It's been a while since I transformed one, but I remember hating this mold, one of the worst in the Alternators line. The arms and/or door are a pain.

Revoltech Megatron: Hardest yet, never managed to get him in gun mode.

I've had some difficulty with other molds, but it was more about me not understanding the process, and once figuring out all was fine :p Like how to extend the legs on Alt Tracks or collapsing the legs on MP Prime.

ninety
07-23-2008, 09:59 PM
Revoltech Megatron: Hardest yet, never managed to get him in gun mode.

:lol:lol:lol:lol WIN!

Feralstorm
07-23-2008, 10:02 PM
NOTE: Now...by now, a few of you guys are probly saying : "This Ihsan guy is pretty full of himself. He always starts threads with his name in them." Let me tell you why I do that. Many of my threads are based off of personal opinion. By adding my name to the title, one KNOWS for sure that it is only my opinion. Just thought I would clear that up.

Can't both answers be right? ;)

In no specific order:

* MP Megatron

* MP Starscream

* RiD Sideburn

* BWNeo Big Convoy

* Alternators Grimlock/Wheeljack

ChrisW
07-23-2008, 10:19 PM
Hardest for me:


MP Megatron
MP Prime
MP Starscream/Skywarp
ALT Tracks
Movie 2007 Longarm


MP Megatron is mostly easy (though complex) but getting his arms together for gun mode was hard. Like many others, I have difficulty with MP Prime's legs when going from robot to truck. You need to press the barrels just right. MP Starscream is perhaps the hardest for me, since I always end up with panel gaps in plane mode. I always have trouble with ALT Tracks' legs when transforming him. And Longarm's legs and feet are exceptionally difficult to line up correctly for truck mode.

Rattrap Primal
07-24-2008, 12:38 AM
1) Movie Ironhide
2) from the looks of it, Fort Max looks somewhat involved the first time
3) RID/ Car Robots Car Brothers, Bulid Team (I still can't assemble Bulid King/ Landfill right)
4) Alternators
5) Movie Barricade, you have to make sure every peg is secure or the spring loaded arm kicks in

Nerdling
07-24-2008, 12:51 AM
I dont have any trouble with MP Megs, MP Prime, or MP SS. They're all relatively easy, just takes time is all. Last week I transformed MP 05 with no instructions, and after not having played with my TFs in months. Haven't broken anything on him either.

The TF's I own I have the most trouble transforming are Alt Jazz and Armada Unicron. Something on Alt Jazz always comes off, and the feet themselves are their own little world. Unicron, on the other hand, never looks right to me in his alt mode. I'm constantly shifting stuff around to get it to look rounder.

edit; oh, and Movie Ironhide is sorta confusing but that might be because he's black and you cant really see where the parts are supposed to go.

revlimiter
07-24-2008, 12:52 AM
my list requires only 3 entries.

#3: Alt Skids. Easy except for putting the arms back when going bot -> car. I can NEVER remember how to put the arms back under the hood and end up fiddling with it for 20 minutes. Still, enjoyable otherwise.

#2: MP Megatron. he's hard. very hard. Very darn difficult. But I've transformed him about 20 times back and forth. He's not broken or anything and I enjoy the transformation, but I have to refer back to the instructions if I've not done it for a few months.

#1: The alt Mustangs. I hate their transformation. it is not fun to me. All the parts fall off every time it seems. Hate. Really. It's difficult and fiddly and not fun and I've probably done it 4 times for each Grimmy and Wheeljack. ugh. they are my very least favorite alts.

Pravus Prime
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
It's always interesting to read lists and say, "Well, he's not hard to transform", like for me, Big Convoy, Devil Gigatron, Build King, no problems with any of them. I'm also going to guess that the OP meant Tigerhawk, since there is no TM2 Tigertron. Actually, again going back to that, "Well, he's not hard to Transform", for me, I actually figured him out without using instructions, just based on TM2 Megatron; they both had a similar TF mentality to them.

Anway, onto my dreaded TFs:

1. Alt Mustang. This is the only TF on this list I actually dislike. I don't think it poses well, looks good, or is any fun to TF in any way, shape, or form. It falls apart, I always feel like it's going to break on me, and it always takes me forever to TF it.

2. Magnaboss. While I can piece together the Alt Mustang mold into robot and back, Magnaboss, well, he confuses me. I've never been able to TF all three into Magnaboss without using the instructions. I don't know what it is, but I just don't seem capable of piecing him together. The three individuals, no problem. I like the mold, but I just can't seem to TF him into the gestalt without aide, though I've only done it about 3 times.

3. Tripredicus. Much like the above, it's the gestalt mode that gives me problems. However, unlike the aforementioned Magnaboss, I can usually fiddle around until it's right. For me, it's entirely on Circadia, getting his wobbly body framed just right to attach is problematic for me. Additionally, he never feels as stable as I would've liked. Both BW Gestalts just aren't that fun for me.

4. RiD Ultra Magnus. This is a unique case. I actually can transform him, Robot, Omega Prime, etc. Not a problem. For me, however, at least on my actual figure, the toy always seems to throw a fit and never want to line up the plates for car carrier mode. Lining up the pegs and sockets for the legs side carriage to the front/torso side carriage on both sides just never wants to seem to line up and snap together. So, it's not a matter of a lack of fun to TF it, or that I can't, it's just that it's a very fickle figure.

5. (Tie) Shockeract. Entirely out of fear of chipping. He's already got a few scratches and chips from previous transformations, so he generally stays put. Plus the mold is a bit of a mess IMHO, with the tank mode and whatnot. It just does nothing for me.

5. (Tie) MP Prime. Again, I don't have a problem TFing him, or with the figure, other then those darn feet. I've tried my tried and true nail polish, which usually works, to no avail on this guy. It seems I just look at them, and the feet fall off. A nice toy, but bad, bad feet.

Icetron
07-24-2008, 03:40 AM
I'm also going to guess that the OP meant Tigerhawk, since there is no TM2 Tigertron. Actually, again going back to that, "Well, he's not hard to Transform", for me, I actually figured him out without using instructions, just based on TM2 Megatron; they both had a similar TF mentality to them.

Ah were they similar? TM2 Megs is harder imo because of his fragile wings, but otherwise I guess you're right. I figured out Tigerhawk without instructions, pretty easily but I struggled a little with TM2 Megatron. I don't own Tigerhawk, I just transformed my friend's Tigerhawk so I dunno. :lol

Fighbird
07-24-2008, 03:58 AM
In no particular order:

BT Laserwave: Those feet always confuse me...
Alt Grimlock: Can't add anything that hasn't already been said... :)
Tripedacus: Took some dedicated work to figure out how Ramhorn should be positioned...
Ultimate Movie Bumblbee: Parts are always getting in the way of one another, and are difficult to line up for car mode...

TheInformation
07-24-2008, 05:38 AM
I agree with a lot of what has already been said. I only saw it mentioned once, but Alternator/KISS Play Prime is one of my hardest.

I'm dusting off my shelves as we speak, and when I do this I clean the toys, and then put them in alt mode so they're easier to dust off again before I set them up. Both times transforming KISS Play Prime, I can not get his legs to extend without pulling as hard as I can.

I hate pulling this hard on a toy. I'm usually extremely careful with my Transformers, and I've yet to break one. I always think I'm missing some kind of trick, because my Alternators Prime AND my KISS Play Prime give me the same problem.

Also, I can't transform Melissa into a pair of pants. But I think that's a widespread problem.

Opticron Primal
07-24-2008, 08:40 AM
Revoltech Megatron: Hardest yet, never managed to get him in gun mode.


Can I nominate this for Comment of the Year? It deserves a prize.

Tenebrouser
07-24-2008, 09:09 AM
I think you can just stop at MP Megs....:lol


Yep. I transformed him to gun mode and haven't even tried to get it back. I actually had beads of persperation form from trying to get the legs-handle right and avoiding breaking it with force. It's been sitting in my closet for a year now untouched.

Sunstorm9119
07-24-2008, 09:09 AM
My list is kinda short:

1. The Alternators Mustangs, total pain in the tail. But strangely worth the effort....

2. Movie Blackout....stupid automorph glitch....

3. And the newest member of my menagerie.....Animated Prowl....I just can't seem to get his frickin' legs positioned right for his alt mode. I'm sure i'll figure it out with some practice.....

Gingerchris
07-24-2008, 10:02 AM
Animated Prowl....I just can't seem to get his frickin' legs positioned right for his alt mode
I've had that too, especially getting his wings to tab securely. Just take a closer look at the instructions - it's all there. :)

PrimeConvoy
07-24-2008, 10:23 AM
I really only have one and thats BW TM2 Cybershark/RID Sky-byte to this day I still pop off his tail or fins when I transform him...Nothing else really bothers me.

Grimlock_13
07-24-2008, 10:50 AM
For the most part I can get the hand of tricky transformations pretty quickly. Rod Skybyte, Sideburn and the Alternators Mustangs really aren't a problem for me anymore, even if it may take me a second to remember specific steps. I can really only think of three that is genuinely difficult or that I've had problems with:

#3- Crossovers Venom- Take an overengineered toy and pair it with instructions illustrated by a monkey...yeah. I still doubt I have the abdomen transformed right.

#2- MP Megatron- Took me about an hour and a half to TF it the first time, but I was following the instructions intently and deliberately going slow so as not to break it. Back to robot mode took about 30 minutes. I've only transformed it one other time, over a year ago lol.


#1 SWTF Darth Vader. I've never gotten all the panels to line up in Death Star mode. Never.

Ceerad
07-24-2008, 10:58 AM
I don't own the mold, but I'm waiting for someone to mention Big Convoy/ Nemesis Prime.

I hated that elephant!

RID Sideburn

Ashstar
07-24-2008, 11:12 AM
Lookin at my shelf, I'd had to go with:

Alt Wheeljack - definite winner, I actually like this guy but could never get his alt mode to come together properly. It's either misaligned doors or saggy front end...

The rest are shared by Movie panel-massagers: Ironhide, Barricade, Longarm & Leader Brawl. Ashstar disapprove of panel massaging :thumbdown

Kingplay
07-24-2008, 01:26 PM
for me the mustang binaltech was a pain in the butt cuz the doors kept popping out and to this day i still don't understand how to do that transformation

Mospeada
07-24-2008, 06:06 PM
I'm glad to see RiD Sideburn listed here. I have two on the shelf, decided to transform the red one last night back to car with no instructions...and it took twenty minutes to figure out.

Lucs
07-25-2008, 02:24 AM
I originally thought MP Primes legs were hard to push but I never force things unless I look at the instructions or fiddle a bit especially since he was the most I ever paid for a TF when I bought him. Needless to say I found the barrel button before I tried just pushing hard.

Either way my top 5 are

Alt Mustang mold - it's not as hard as it used to be but it's always tricky
RID Ultra Magnus - It was always awquard putting him back into car carrier mode
Big Convoy/Nemesis Prime - I only owned him for a short while but I had to transform it once, which was extremely difficult
MP Starscream - It's getting easier now that I have 3 of the mold, I'm just afraid I might break him
RID Landfill- I can't figure out all 3 modes without instructions even tough it's not that hard for me once I see it on paper.

A few extras for me are Movie voyager megs and TFA voyager megs, neither of the alt modes resemble much more that a flying blob so for me that makes it hard to know whether or not I've gotten him TF'd back to flying-thing mode correctly or not

IACON
07-25-2008, 02:26 AM
MP Megatron
MP Prime
Any MP seeker - just because you transform it slowly and gently not to get any stress marks or loose joints.