Universe/Classics 2.0 Sunstreaker Pictorial Review

[tamo536]

here is packaging and instructions
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture229.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture217-1.jpg
final alt mode with engine
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture230.jpg
Here is alt mode sunstreaker with different angles(and yes his engine is missing)Very nice looking with great detail.I will get bot mode up later tonight.He does have a nice transformation sequence with a very g1 style upperbody transformation.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture128-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture131-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture129-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture130-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture132-1.jpg
bot mode pics.Arms are under the hood in alt mode and his head is inside his chest.Spinning the windshield makes the head pop up and the horns come out of his head.He is surprisingly posable and his feet are on ball joints.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture133-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture134-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture136.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture135-1.jpg
comparison pics to classic screamer and sideswipe
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture137.jpg
new shot next to lockdown and voyager prime
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture167-1.jpg

[Ripclaw]

2 words: ME WANT!!!!!!!!!

[spamo123]

I can't wait. I hate you for having him!

[Darth Rodimus]

wait....did you forget to put the engine on or did the seller jip you(which sux), looks nice and seems to be pulling a animated bumblebee effect in veicule(can't spell)

[butz]

I guess I got 2 questions; where (if anywhere) does the gun stash in vehicle mode? And, how does the alternate/Sideswipe transform work?

[tamo536]

I guess I got 2 questions; where (if anywhere) does the gun stash in vehicle mode? And, how does the alternate/Sideswipe transform work?

in alt mode the gun attaches as his tail pipe

[Ripclaw]

in alt mode the gun attaches as his tail pipe

that looks like it hurts

[Ravenxl7]

Cool. I really like the shade of yellow they chose for him, and I like how he and Starscream look when compared to each other. The head thing sounds interesting. Can't wait to see that in a video review, as I'm really curious as how that looks in person.

[Powersa]

nice bot mode. alt mode kinda boring.

[tamo536]

the chest piece spins 180 degrees exposing the head and horns from inside his chest
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture138.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture139.jpg

[Dolza_Khyron]

how does it look, and transform, into classics "sideswipe?" does it do it well? or is it an after thought? or what?

[REDLINE]

um, how could it be an afterthought when the sideswipe transformation is the ORIGINAL transformation this mold was designed with?

[General Tekno]

Do pics of what Sideswipe will likely look like!

[REDLINE]

there are already pictures of that. they were taken at the Austrailian toy fair last week. In the news forum.

[Renidragon]

Damn, that guy is so nice.

I mean, I wanted the first Classics releases... but not as badly as I want these ones. Not nearly as badly. I guess I have a weakness for the 84 cars. Mirage is probably my favorite Classics 1.0.

[SPLIT LIP]

I'm really liking this guy. Thanks a ton for the pics.

He and Octankor are the only one's I'll be getting. Sunstreaker gives me that Mirage vide. I loved Mirage as he was probably the best deluxe since a long time before.If only his feet weren't so damn loose.

[funkatron101]

I wish the yellow plastic didn't look so cheap. I might have to give him a new paint job when I get him.

[Petro-rabbit]

Sunstreaker looks really good. I like the color's that they chose and the chest spinning to reveal the head sounds cool.
I really wish they'd bring these out already!

[BumbleVeeNH]

This is what Sunstreaker's Alt/BT should have looked like, not just a Viper repaint.....

[Railguard]

Yes, he looks awesome!!! I too wish they would release them already. Thank you for the pics.

[defstar]

Thank you for the pics...are his knees kind of tricky to pose...?

They just look a little funny in the pictures...

[godsenddeath]

This is what Sunstreaker's Alt/BT should have looked like, not just a Viper repaint.....


Although it looks rather like a Gallardo, Classics Sunstreaker is a mix of elements from various sports cars.

Alternators are based on real life cars. Lamborghini is owned by the Volkswagen/Audi group and they have repeatedly said they want nothing to do with Transformers. A Lamborghini Alt was never going to happen.

[Optimus Scourge]

Nice!

[encline]

Getting that. Looking at the pic with SS, makes me realize just how crappy a deluxe SS was. We need a voyager.

[Devastattor]

I like the back detailing in the alt mode but the front end/headlight detailing is BLAND!!! And I agree with several others-the yellow plastic looks cheap. Hasbro could have put a little more effort into SSer.

[Imotron]

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kenm2474]

Do pics of what Sideswipe will likely look like!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/kenm2474/ClassicsSideswipe.jpg

[Johnator]

Sunstreaker looks awesome. I am definitely getting all the Universe toys since they look really well done. I am really excited about what we are getting this fall. Will be a good time to be a TF fan. :)

[nkelsch]

I am not feeling this mold. It feels like Alternators Lite like how fast action battlers are 'real figure lite'.

Maybe I just don't like the characters.

Though I would love to see a Punch/Counterpunch out of this mold. Get on it FP!

[Smkscrn GT]

Sunstreaker is sweet! Must have him now!

And bring on Sideswipe!

[Tman978]

Nice pics. I want this toy 20+yrs ago. Somebody make it happen.

[Scourge_151]

Very nice, I've noticed the classics2/universe guys seem to be taller thus far than the other classics guys, any chance of a comparison with some other Classics deluxes?

[Brave Magnus]

Hm..goodtoy, nice mold, nice colors, the transformation looks fun but I'm not getting this one.

[Stormcrow]

really nice lookin figure, but this is one I'll pass on. I was never really a fan of the character.

[Lupis Convoy]

pretty swanky.. I'll pick him up when he comes out.

[Sso02V]

are his pop-out ears geared, or spring loaded?

[pscoop]

While I am more looking foward to Sideswipe, this looks totally sweet too. I'll be getting both. :)

[autobotx23]

He looks pretty good, after having 20 some years off! Mine!!!

[TRANS+CRAZY]

Woo-hoo! I'm SO going to get 'Streaker when he comes out! Hasbro, hurry up and release these new Classics!!!

[shogun221]

Is anyone else getting a serious "Punch/Counterpunch" vibe off this thing?

I'm digging the mold, although the QC with the paint and plastic seems a touch rough. I was also holding out hope that 'Swipe would have a different head mold...but the ear gimmick probably killed that straight dead. Still excited, but will have to be convinced in person.

[BustaJesse]

Thanks for the review man, great figure:)

[Fairlady_Z]

Thanks for the review!

Want! Twin-bots! Now!

How many months do we have to wait for Sunny now? And how many more for Sideswipe? ARGH!

[Team Jetfire]

Always a fan of the Brothers.

The yellow does look a little bland though...

[Yobuster]

Yup definitely feeling a Punch/Counterpunch vibe here. Same twist around chest concept (or backward/forward). Only thing is what to do with the head.
They'll need some serious re-engineering to construct a proper head, errr 2 proper heads

[Brandon]

Pretty cool. Looking forward to the brothers. Sunstreaker looks kinda neat. Yellow does seem bland, but it's alright.

[MilkManX]

Very cool. Cant wait to get one.

[optimus124]

Looks great. If they do Sideswipe, the head will just be turned the other way, with the front of the car as the chest and the other body parts repositioned as appropriate

[Seawing]

Sunstreaker looks great!
Thanks for sharing pics.

[Seawing]

crud, double post...
:(

[peteynorth]

I'm a little disappointed with the 'Sideswipe' version of the torso. The car hood should be the chest and the stuff under tapers down to the waist. Here it looks like the dashboard (for lack of a better term) is the chest while the hood forms the midsection. It's still good, but not nearly as good as I had hoped.

[Edgewise]

I was also holding out hope that 'Swipe would have a different head mold...but the ear gimmick probably killed that straight dead.

I think Sideswipe will have a different head(or maybe just the head without the ears).... I don't think the ears gimmick is a "feature playability gimmick" that they want to include, I'm guessing it just had to be used to give Sunstreaker wide ears while also making his head narrow enough to retract into the chest space.

[fosterlager]

Nice and tall. Win!

[Bass X0]

Although it looks rather like a Gallardo, Classics Sunstreaker is a mix of elements from various sports cars.

Alternators are based on real life cars. Lamborghini is owned by the Volkswagen/Audi group and they have repeatedly said they want nothing to do with Transformers. A Lamborghini Alt was never going to happen.

people don't care about facts like that. they want their new lamborghini sunsteaker now!

[mizuki088]

The Sun Streak has two pipe lines on the crotch and a screw on the back.
(May be I thinking was too evil.)

[sixshot2K]

2 words: ME WANT!!!!!!!!!
1 word: DITTO!

[Red leader]

Nice pics. I want this toy 20+yrs ago. Somebody make it happen.

Quoted for truth :thumbs2:

[tamo536]

Nice and tall. Win!

Quoted for truth :thumbs2:

here is a pic next to classics grimlock and astrotrain.He is about a head taller than both and almost 2 inches taller than bumblebee.He is barely taller than animated prowl for scale.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture140.jpg

The color on mine may not be the actual color but i will know for sure once my mosc sunstreaker gets here next week.


the horns are spring loaded and extend when the head pops up.

[brr-icy]

i want one for sure, i think i'll get all the new classics

[razorchrist]

I'm still not digging this mold, unfortunately. I understand why other people are excited, but it's not doing much for me. Looks too much like a mini-Alt imo, especially compared to the original Classics.

Universe is starting to feel like an entirely different toyline aesthetic comapred to Classics, and while they *can* fit together, you can still clearly spot the differences in theme. That's really throwing me off.

[artiepants]

Friggin' Brilliant. Can't tell you how happy i am with this.

i love the Alternator-lite aspect (which Bumblebee ahd to an extent, but not as much as these) and the pop-up head feature is out of this world, i love stuff like that.

kind of feels like the logical conclusion of what Classics should be: realistic Alt modes ala G1 combined with stylized and possible bot modes. Like RiD but with less wonky bot modes (don't get me wrong i love RiD)

seems like the ultimate realization of Transformers in a lot of ways.
so nice to see this after the horror of Blitzwing earlier today.

[ThaConqueror]

so cool to see this after the awesomeness of Blitzwing earlier today.

That's a bit better ;)

That being done, Streaker looks sweet. Be sure to put up pics of him with his engine and gun when they get there!

[artiepants]

That's a bit better ;)
no no, i got it right the first time ;)

:D

[MV75]

While it's a nice style, it clearly shows why they should start to include sticker packs again. Geez it's boring as all.

It's the flatest looking thing in yawnsville man.

[alien]

so this is must have!

[Grimwing]

I love it. If we can get 3 figures out of this mold let them be:

Sunstreaker
Sideswipe
Punch

[microclone]

top half looks good but the legs just arent working for me, im not sure what the designer was thinking, compared to the cleverness and aesthetics of the universe swerve this is quite a letdown, the bits hanging at the knees really spoil the look.

[Chainclaw]

Aside from the two-tone yellow (which is entirely understandable) I can't fault Sunstreaker.

[Dropshot]

The head detail is brilliant, but he's lacking a lot of detail in car mode, it needs more black, it looks really bland and cheap with all that yellow (much like Animated BB) and because of this, the legs are missing a lot of detail, hence the cheap look.

[lita 1]

I will definately be getting these.

[Johnator]

I will definately be getting these.

Me too.

[Robogeek28]

As will I.:drool:

[ministargazer]

Ditto with the buying of these guys asap... however i agree with the earlier comments about the styling of this line, I think that the new universe line is edging a bit closer to the realistic styling of the Alternators line, this might be just me, but there was something about the original Classics vehicle modes that were not quite recognisable as production cars that made them a bit special.

Also we know from past repaints and remolds that Sunstreaker and Sideswipe won't be that much different, but it would have been nice to have a very different transformation for the same/similar alt mode, remember the G1 brothers transformed completly differently to each other (okay their Alt modes looked very different to each other too) but we all knew they were both based on Lamborgini countachs

On a side note, if either of these guys make it into the Movie, it would be very nice if they appeared as Reventóns (yes I know it'll never happen with the Audi VW guys in charge)

Just a thought! would be nice.

[Feralstorm]

I can dig it.

[airfox]

IMO Universe Sunstreaker is a PERFECT homage to one of my favorite G1 characters; that means like others I can't wait.

Congrats on the purchase!

-airfox

[D Banks]

Hey guys, heres my Universe Sunstreaker review compared with Classic bumblebee, hot rod and Prime. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCpZyTbO_b8

[tamo536]

for his feet crazy glue fixes the problem(mine had a loose foot too)


great review:thumb

[D Banks]

for his feet crazy glue fixes the problem(mine had a loose foot too)


great review:thumb

Mines doesnt really have that problem but its a little loose.

[General Tekno]

Well done.

[Dolza_Khyron]

um, how could it be an afterthought when the sideswipe transformation is the ORIGINAL transformation this mold was designed with?

don't know, from what i've seen of the pictures, it seems that it IS just an after thought. with the big chest. don't know i hope it's not.

the cybertron line was designed to have the cyberkeys but it seems that some of the features were indeed after thoughts, like vector prime's key, being JUST sounds. *at least that is with mine*

but i just hope it doesn't just look like he's standing with backwards with all his parts backwards like all the 'con pictures have been.

[REDLINE]

Originally, the mold ONLY transformed with the Sideswipe transformation. The only differences would have been the heads and Streaker having the engine behind he head and Sideswipe having a shoulder launcher. They then realised with only a slight tweak, they could give it a more 'Streaker like transformation so they weren't exactly clones.

[Ravenxl7]

Originally, the mold ONLY transformed with the Sideswipe transformation. The only differences would have been the heads and Streaker having the engine behind he head and Sideswipe having a shoulder launcher. They then realised with only a slight tweak, they could give it a more 'Streaker like transformation so they weren't exactly clones.
That does make sense, but I've always thought it was like this. That they've been planning the slight tweak since the begining, but they had time to come up with Sideswipe's concept art, and thus only changed the head, weapons, and coloration for Sunstreaker for the show. Either way both characters work really well from this same basic mold, imo. Even though we haven't seen what Sideswipe will look once finished. Here's hoping Botcon yeilds a picture or two of at least a prototype of what Sideswipe will look like, which is just Sunstreaker with a different head, different weapons, and a tweak to it's transformation.

[tfgeekman]

Here is alt mode sunstreaker with different angles(and yes his engine is missing)Very nice looking with great detail.I will get bot mode up later tonight.He does have a nice transformation sequence with a very g1 style upperbody transformation.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture128-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture131-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture129-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture130-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture132-1.jpg
bot mode pics.Arms are under the hood in alt mode and his head is inside his chest.Spinning the windshield makes the head pop up and the horns come out of his head.He is surprisingly posable and his feet are on ball joints.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture133-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture134-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture136.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture135-1.jpg
comparison pics to classic screamer and sideswipe
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture137.jpg
new shot next to lockdown and voyager prime
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture167-1.jpg

now thats nice , when did come out ? in the stores i already have all i need that one too,is sideswipe comming out too and red alert?

[SharkyMcShark]

WANT

WANT

Will buy more than one (not an MISB collector or anything - WANT SPARES! MANY MANY SPARES!)

I hope these don't end up in some kind of ridiculous 08BB Scalper heaven situation (although it has to be said that did sort it self out in the end - I can actually find 08bb and cliffjumper in stores still).

The new universe style is HAWT. So much better than animated (although my heart still belong to the movie designs by far)

[tamo536]

now thats nice , when did come out ? in the stores i already have all i need that one too,is sideswipe comming out too and red alert?

they are scheduled for fall but i got all three classics early.:D
and sideswipe and red alert have yet to be comfirmed i believe.Red alert does seem doubtful though.
sideswipe
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture176-1.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture175-1.jpg

[Railguard]

I hope I find them soon cause I am dying to own these things!!!!!

[BigRC83]

Need Sunstreaker NOW!

[alien]

oh god, i just wish to have it very soon...

[SigmaPiRon]

It looks like if you spin the head and legs around, you would get an alternate Sideswipe transformation. The hood would become the front of the figgure.

[Synthetic Breed]

Is it just me or does the leg transformation remind the fuck out of me of Alternators Mirage and Rodimus. Very cool spinning chest head pop out feature as well. Not really sold on this figure though.

[NGW]

Likin' the figure alot. Not my most anticipated of the new classics range, but I will definitely be getting him.

[Thundercrackah]

Clipping the engine behind the head really helps with the Sunstreaker look, he doesn't look right without it.

[Feralstorm]

Does the waist rotate? I'd think the Sideswipe design would be aided if the whole pelvis/legs assembly could be turned around 180.

I'd suspect some bits of the Sideswipe variation might be assembled 'backward' relative to Sunstreaker, as just turning parts around to face the back would result in things like thumbs on the wrong sides of the fists, and stuff like that.

Anyway, I'm lovin' Sunstreaker. He's a little on the tall side compared to previous Classics, but I can probably live with that.

[REDLINE]

watch the video review.

[tamo536]

Does the waist rotate? I'd think the Sideswipe design would be aided if the whole pelvis/legs assembly could be turned around 180.

I'd suspect some bits of the Sideswipe variation might be assembled 'backward' relative to Sunstreaker, as just turning parts around to face the back would result in things like thumbs on the wrong sides of the fists, and stuff like that.

Anyway, I'm lovin' Sunstreaker. He's a little on the tall side compared to previous Classics, but I can probably live with that.

both his waist and knees turn completely.So it is very possible to do sideswipe with some minor mods.

and switching of his arms
sideswipe mode with reversed arms waist and knees
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture177-1.jpg
and a new head
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture178-1.jpg

[Moonscream]

I think the way they did the body so it could be either twin yet still different is pretty neat. I hope for a different head for Sideswipe, but even more than that I just hope I can afford 'em when they're out! :D

--Moony

[D Banks]

Cool, although the sideswipe transformation is cool I still like the original transformation

[D Banks]

Im gonna post an update video showing the sideswipe transformation since alot of people have been wanting to see it , Keep posted

[kajobaldisimo]

very nice! now i wonder how different the henkei version will be.

[Imotron]

COOL!!!!... careful you almost broke it

[Feralstorm]

As others have said, I smell a possible Punch/Counterpunch club/convention exclusive in the future.

[artiepants]

Cool, although the sideswipe transformation is cool I still like the original transformation

to be fair, i think the Sideswipe version is the original :)

I really hope they can do more of this "slightly alternate transformation + new head" idea to get more milage out of molds.

both his waist and knees turn completely.So it is very possible to do sideswipe with some minor mods.

and switching of his arms
sideswipe mode with reversed arms waist and knees
does it work with the wheels pointed to the outsides of his legs, ala G1 Sideswipe?

[Obvious Prime]

As others have said, I smell a possible Punch/Counterpunch club/convention exclusive in the future.

That'd be boss. As long as he's NOT a convention exclusive.

[REDLINE]

I honestly hope not. I'd MUCH prefer a new mold, he deserves as much, seeing as the whole gimmick has never been done since the original P/CP was made. :( If they did anything similar to the concept blueprints that King Starscream did, holy moley that'd be amazingly cool.

[Yobuster]

Yeah bring him on. SUnstreaker looks good. To the comment that Classics is losing it's classics look and more Alternators. It sort of does appear that way but in terms of real-world mix it looks like Classics 1.0, I think only Bumblebee was based off of a real car.

Bumblebee = based on Peugot 206
Prime = not a real truck
Mirage = formula1 car but definitely not close enough to today's F1 cars
Astrotrain = non-existent space shuttle, train looks like France's TGV train
HotRod = not a real car
Starscream = F-15, still looks just like it.
Megatron = not a real gun

For classics2.0
SUnstreak/Sideswipe = based on Lamborghini Gallardo
Prowl = based on Nisssan 350Z
others = not real vehicles.

Just my 2 cents. =)

[Ravenxl7]

Yeah bring him on. SUnstreaker looks good. To the comment that Classics is losing it's classics look and more Alternators. It sort of does appear that way but in terms of real-world mix it looks like Classics 1.0, I think only Bumblebee was based off of a real car.

Bumblebee = based on Peugot 206
Prime = not a real truck
Mirage = formula1 car but definitely not close enough to today's F1 cars
Astrotrain = non-existent space shuttle, train looks like France's TGV train
HotRod = not a real car
Starscream = F-15, still looks just like it.
Megatron = not a real gun

For classics2.0
SUnstreak/Sideswipe = based on Lamborghini Gallardo
Prowl = based on Nisssan 350Z
others = not real vehicles.

Just my 2 cents. =)
I've actually seen some semi's that look similar to what Classics Prime looks like, though not close enough to say he's that specific model or anything. As for the Universe Classics, there are a couple more that are based off of real vehicles, though for one reason or another have some differences to them.

Powerglide- A-10 Thunderbolt II (more commonly known as the Warthog).
Galvatron- Can't remember the name, but most of his alt-mode looks like an actuall tank used for combat.
Onslaught- He's a combination of different heavy duty vehicles used in the military.
Tankor (Octane)- His plane-mode is close to a C-130, and his tanker-mode is close to an actual military tanker (saw some pictures of it from a link in another thread, though I can't remember what it was called, or what thread it was in).

Sunstreakers pretty awesome. Like some of his other Universe Classics counterparts, he does look a bit more Alternator-ish, but they are diffinetly, imo, still close enough to the origional Classics look to count as true Classics, imo.

[butz]

Galvatron- Can't remember the name, but most of his alt-mode looks like an actuall tank used for combat.

Merkava, I think.

Tankor (Octane)- His plane-mode is close to a C-130, and his tanker-mode is close to an actual military tanker (saw some pictures of it from a link in another thread, though I can't remember what it was called, or what thread it was in).


His tanker truck can actually be seen, briefly, in the movie; during Blackout's attack. Blink and you'll miss it.

[ministargazer]

Don't mention the movie, before you know it Tankor will be repainted and renamed and stuck in the movie line too. "Desert Attack Tankor" (although I'm sure Hasbro have finished milking the movie line for anymore profit) :rolleyes2 :lol

[butz]

Theres always the sequel! :lol

[Hound & Mirage]

for hungry eyeballs...

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=61262&extra=page%3D1

[Backstop]

that is soooooooooooo awsome!!!!!!

[tamo536]

got some crack today:D will update pics and review prowl shortly

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture217-1.jpg

[artiepants]

for hungry eyeballs...

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=61262&extra=page%3D1
holy crap, that's almost more awesomesauce then i can handle. these need to come out yesterday!!! LOVE how good they made the Sideswipe version look.

[xSEANxLONGx]

Here is my Video Review of Transformers Universe Classics 2.0 Deluxe Sunstreaker!

I show off his Box, Transformation, Details, Weapon, and Size Comparison to Classics Bumblebee, Classics Rodimus, Deluxe Movie Barricade, and Universe Deluxe Prowl and Tankor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9akVNqXaQ0

ENJOY!

[Anti Spark]

Not Bad!

Off topic di ya get Megs Yet?!?

[xSEANxLONGx]

Not Bad!

Off topic di ya get Megs Yet?!?

Which one?

[SpeedBreaker]

Wow! :bay

If Sunstreaker wasn't a must buy before then he certaily is now.

[razorchrist]

As others have said, I smell a possible Punch/Counterpunch club/convention exclusive in the future.
See, now THAT makes sense for a club exclusive. Not totally obscure or random like Bugbite, not as desired or expected in a mainline release like the Seekers, not a retarded repaint with no rhyme or reason like Dreadwind, Huffer, Springer or whatever that zombie looking mess is this year... just the right amount of fanwank to make sense.

I definitely put the Punch/Counterpunch convention idea up there with the Runamuck & Runabout, Sunstorm and ghost/clear Starscream & Mirage ideas. That's the kind of convention exclusive balance I hope to see more of in the future.

[kasper0v]

your reviews are great, man--keep it up.

[jazz4ever]

dude you do the best reveiws on TFs that are not out yet all the others are either grainy or shaky or not informative keep doing reviews just like this one

[xSEANxLONGx]

dude you do the best reveiws on TFs that are not out yet all the others are either granny or shaky or not informative keep doing reviews just like this one

Thank You! I figure If I'm gonna review a figure not out yet I give all the info I can about the figure, Details, Features, Articulation, Transformation, and Size Comparison.

IT MEANS A LOT! THANKS!

[xSEANxLONGx]

Hey Guys got Animated Leader Bulkhead and I'm gonna review him in a bit! HE ROCK!

[Cataclizm1]

Sunstreaker looks amazing thanks for the review.

[chuckcjc]

Does the waist rotate? I'd think the Sideswipe design would be aided if the whole pelvis/legs assembly could be turned around 180.

I'd suspect some bits of the Sideswipe variation might be assembled 'backward' relative to Sunstreaker, as just turning parts around to face the back would result in things like thumbs on the wrong sides of the fists, and stuff like that.

Anyway, I'm lovin' Sunstreaker. He's a little on the tall side compared to previous Classics, but I can probably live with that.

The waist rotates 180 deg., and his arms can actually be taken off right at the upper arm swivel joint. They slide right off from the back, so after swapping the arms, the thumbs are in the correct position. Will try the transformation in this mode when I get home tonight.

Has anyone mentioned how the gun doesn't quite fit underneath the car mode correctly (tailpipe section). Possibly will be better sized before the final release. I believe all packaged Universe figs are packaging mock ups / store samples at the moment.

[Obvious Prime]

As others have said, I smell a possible Punch/Counterpunch club/convention exclusive in the future.

I'd rather him be a club exclusive, like Nightbeat.

[Ray Kremer]

Originally, the mold ONLY transformed with the Sideswipe transformation. The only differences would have been the heads and Streaker having the engine behind he head and Sideswipe having a shoulder launcher. They then realised with only a slight tweak, they could give it a more 'Streaker like transformation so they weren't exactly clones.

It's kind of interesting that Sideswipe and Sunstreaker have ended up as redeco brothers on the basis of their G1 forms being similar cars yet completely different molds. Similar to the Bumblebee/Cliffjumper situation except those G1 toys were functionally the same to the point that one could be called a remold of the other rather than two different molds.

[JOHNDILLINGA]

Production run figure, colors are nice and the look and style of the figure looks more like a deluxe sized Alternator, Leg transformation borrows from the Ford GT mold. A suprising look at whats to come in terms of transformation style for the Classics line.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0821.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0818.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0815.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0820.jpg
Minor tail light paint flaw but what more can you expect with QC of a pre-release figure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0819.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0824.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0825.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0827.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0828.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0829.jpg

Ol' School Vs. New Hotness
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0831.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0832.jpg

The Sideswipe Variant
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0835.jpg


Bio: (Copied from HTS)

SUNSTREAKER is a fighter for a cause, and that cause is SUNSTREAKER. If it’s not in his best interest (and not too threatening to his paint job), he’ll take out anyone he needs to, no matter where he is. Still, he’d rather be back home, kicking back, polishing his chrome and preparing for a good, old-fashioned arena fight, rather than hunting DECEPTICON assault squads across deep space.
Wielding an electron pulse blaster in robot mode, the loyal AUTOBOT defender is ready to take on whatever adventures you create! Convert the no-nonsense robot figure to vehicle mode to unleash a slick racecar and roll out!

[SPLIT LIP]

This fig is so nice. I always loved Sunstreaker and this update does him justice and thensome.

[jazz4ever]

This fig is so nice. I always loved Sunstreaker and this update does him justice and thensome.

agreed completely

[Powersa]

Bot mode looks great!

[Laser_Optimus]

Man that figure is awesome. Can't wait until August/September! This bad boy is so mine and I'm going to buy two of him and two of Sideswipe to do head swaps and their alternate Transformations on for a custom Tiger Track & whatever I decide to name the red one...

The level of detailing is amazing and it's interesting that they were able to design him with two transformations. I don't know why, but I'd like to see the club/convention do a Punch/Counterpunch out of this mold. It'd be great.

[REDLINE]

not me. I'd MUCH rather we just get a legit P/CP mass release. Preferably something along the lines of King Starscream's concept drawings.

[JOHNDILLINGA]

I know and he's actually fun to mess with once you get the hang of transforming him, the dynamic of his poses are compairable to Classic's Voyager Prime, Except Sunstreaker has a ball jointed head, Although there's a issue or two with the paint on certian areas (Tail light & Shoulders) overall he's a solid figure and fits in great with the first series of Classics... Now only if they did a better Rodimus :lolol

[Jedah]

Thanks for the pics, Sun is the one classics figure im most looking forward to getting when there finally released.

[mx-01 archon]

As per my earlier Universe Classics reviews: "As those of you following the news might know, retailer Ages Three and Up just recently got their shipment of Universe wave 1 in, giving those of us in the Vancouver, Canada area and frequenters of their online store access to these much anticipated figures months before their estimated ship date, and at normal Canadian retail prices ($14.99 apiece) as opposed to the hefty eBay markups."

No lengthy prefaces here, Sunstreaker's fine:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker02.jpg

As per his original appearance back in 1984, Sunstreaker appears as a modified yellow Lamborghini. Or at least, due to licensing issues, what passes for one. It's closer to the newer Murcielago's shape, but retains some of the angularity and detailing evocative of the Diablo. Sleek, low-riding, wedge-shaped, and sporting some sort of turbo-boosted engine behind its roof, it's definitely looking like a speedy road-munching machine either way, of the type that's out of any normal person's price range. Mostly molded in yellow plastic, the car has a black front grill, and black wheels with silver hubs. The windows are molded in a very dark, almost black, translucent plastic that's nigh impossible to actually see anything behind (there isn't actually anything there). The engine up top is a black plastic core with silver detailing, and silvery-grey plastic intake scoops. The rear end is painted a dark bronze colour, with four red taillights, silvery-grey tailpipes, and a vanity plate reading "WE R 84", referring to his nature as part of the original 1984 Autobot crew. Like Prowl, conspicuously absent are the side mirrors...

Transformation from vehicle mode to robot mode is one part Classics Bumblebee, and one part Alternators Mirage. Start by removing the tailpipe section and the engine, setting them aside. Take firm hold of the hood section, and pull it forward slightly. This'll probably untab it from the doors. Pull a little more, and the doors should untab from the rear fenders. Pull the doors away from the car body, and pull on the hood again, this time extending it out dramatically (this whole part takes a bit of practice to do in reverse). Rotate the front wheels 180 degrees, which in turn swings the arms out (as per Classic Bumblebee or Energon Strongarm). The robot shoulders are attached to little swings bars. Rotate these out so that they lock between the two tabs on the wheel plates. Swing the halves of the tail end out to the sides, and then rotate them 180 degrees so they partially cover the rear wheels. Swing the rear half of the car around to reveal the robot thighs, and then separate them. Rotate each leg so that the wheels are now on the same side as the roof. Using the leverage tabs, swing out the feet from inside the legs, and position them as needed. Flip up the grill of the car, and then swing the whole hood/arm assembly down and lock it in place onto what is now the robot's back, and position the arms as necessary. Rotate the door panels 180 degrees. Rotate the cockpit 180 degrees clockwise (you can't turn it counter from this position anyways), which will cause the robot's head to pop up. The "ear" pieces on the head will pop out automatically. Clip the engine behind the head, and place the gun in either hand. The gun can also be mounted in a hole on either shoulder.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker05.jpg

The end result is a mean lookin' robot. Broad shouldered, but fairly lithe, and with a stern expression, Sunstreaker's an athletic looking robot that looks like he's hankering to beat someone down. From the waist up, he looks remarkably like the Sunstreaker of old, with the roof chest, distinctive "finhead", and engine backpack. He even has red detailing on his shoulders (although not in the same way at all). From the waist down, he's something new for the character, entirely. While it would have been quite possible to ape the original transformation scheme, if you've been following the word from Hasbro, you know that what they've tried to do here is something else entirely. By messing with his overall transformation scheme, they've created not just a passable Sunstreaker, but with modification, a body that works equally well for his "twin" brother, Sideswipe. Sunstreaker himself is looking good in his new duds. Posability here is good, but with restrictions in some key areas. Balljoint neck, swivel waist, balljoint shoulders, bicep swivels, double elbows (maximum 160 degree arc forwards and back), swivel wrists, balljoint hips, thigh swivels, 90 degree knee hinges, balljoint feet. The shoulder joints are restricted to 40 degrees of outwards movement, the hips 45. Like Classics Bumblebee and Energon Strongarm, the way the shoulders are mounted also allows some back/forward swing. This figure is exceptionally well balanced (due to its dual purpose nature, it kinda has to be). I had concerns about his rather small footprints, but the figure has remarkable weight distribution, and nicely tight ankle joints, so it's surprisingly simply to get the figure to stand in most poses. Joints on mine are all nice and tight, and everything locks together well, with the exception of the engine. Held in place with a simple tab and slot system, rather than clips, it's pretty easy to dislodge, especially in robot mode. Good 'ole superglue/nailpolish to the rescue here.

Between Prowl and Sunstreaker here, a real divide is quite easy to see between Classics "1.0" and "2.0". They fit in fine with the other figures, that's not a problem. It's in the engineering. Classics 1.0 brought G1 characters back with Cybertron level engineering. 2.0 feels more like Alternators without the interior details. More complex tricks, more joints, simply a whole lot of surprises going on here. Personally, I love when they pull new tricks like this. Gives my brain more of a workout.

Minor Note: paint details again. Nothing major, this time. Surprisingly, there's not much on him that feels undetailed. I just painted silver underneath the car headlights. To do so, remove the screws underneath the front bumper and take those pieces off (they're lightly glued in, but they come off with little effort), and then the wheels/arms just to give yourself more room. With your screwdriver, push up on the pegs holding the headlight pieces in place, they're just clipped in. Now paint away.

[Locustreign]

Great reviews man :D Although you're making me anticipate mine even more!!!

[JOHNDILLINGA]

The windows are molded in a very dark, almost black, translucent plastic that's nigh impossible to actually see anything behind (there isn't actually anything there).

The inside of the windows are painted in black paint, Not molded in black plastic, Im working on removing that paint now if you look at it, it feels rough and has streaks in it. Both are prime examples of it being painted if it was molded it would be smooth on the inside surface as well as the outside...

[artiepants]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker04.jpg.
dude, your pics have got me so damn excited for Prowl and SS i can barely stand it. and since i haven't bought a new TF since i (finally) found movie 08 BB it's been a while...

[mx-01 archon]

The inside of the windows are painted in black paint, Not molded in black plastic, Im working on removing that paint now if you look at it, it feels rough and has streaks in it. Both are prime examples of it being painted if it was molded it would be smooth on the inside surface as well as the outside...

No. It's molded in smoke grey plastic, and textured on the inside to "fog" it. Light shines through it evenly, and if you look at it edge-on, it's still a dark, smoke grey, not clear. It's not painted on the inside at all. The factory paints don't create a texture like that, they're smooth.

[Rodr-Evil]

Cool review man, thanks. Can't wait for this dude.

[brr-icy]

picked up mine at walmart today, awesome fig, no complaints here, definately need a punch/counterpunch remold from him as well as swipe

[JOHNDILLINGA]

No. It's molded in smoke grey plastic, and textured on the inside to "fog" it. Light shines through it evenly, and if you look at it edge-on, it's still a dark, smoke grey, not clear. It's not painted on the inside at all. The factory paints don't create a texture like that, they're smooth.

Well Im looking directly at mine and there is Clear plastic showing through in spots on the underside of the roof not "Smoke Grey Plastic" Which tells me it is spray painted and plus there's areas where the paint wasn't applied evenly on the inside the roof yellow would not show through as yellow as the top color if it was molded in Grey.


pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0867.jpg
Where the yellow shows through it's clear plastic this is also evident on the small window pieces on the arms around the screw hole clear plastic is visable showing the yellow plastic behind it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/Sunstreaker/DSCN0866.jpg
The back where the roof tab is is also clear with the yellow paint of the roof showing through and the tint spray paint on the bottom (Inside) showing through(Depending on the angle you view it at).

[eyeballkid]

Thanks for the pics guys! I really don't like that Pringles chest piece. It's almost as if they didn't even try to match the color. Plus, the autobot logo is huge. I'm repainting mine for sure!

[Depthcharge]

So do the black swing bar pieces that his arms/shoulders connect to actually lock into anything when he's in bot mode or do they just kinda fold up as high as they can against the car hood?

[GladiatorPrime]

I dunno...wasn't a fan of Sunstreaker back then, and I dunno...don't really like this one either!

[JOHNDILLINGA]

So do the black swing bar pieces that his arms/shoulders connect to actually lock into anything when he's in bot mode or do they just kinda fold up as high as they can against the car hood?

They are pined to the swivel plate behind the wheel they basicly rotate into place to fold the arms under the vehicle mode.

[Depthcharge]

They are pined to the swivel plate behind the wheel they basicly rotate into place to fold the arms under the vehicle mode.

Right right but what I'm asking is, when they swing up for robot mode, are they supposed to peg into anything or do they just swing up and hang out loosely (because on mine the pins are loose and his shoulders tend to droop down).

[ChrisW]

There should be two bumps on each black swivel plate. The swing bars should end up angled upwards at about 45 degrees, locked in place (though not super firmly - you can still rotate the swing bars by force past each bump) by the two bumps on the swivel plate. The swing bar ends up in between the bumps (one above the bar, one below the bar) when positioned correctly.

[JOHNDILLINGA]

No, there is nothing for it to pin to, they sit loose/independent of the rest of the body.

[evrdazed]

i picked him up on a whim, and didn't like him at first. but the little guy has grown on me. i reconfigured him so that he transforms like sideswipe and i think i like this version better. i prob will change him back after a while. the plastics do seem a bit cheaper in this line, but the alternator style of transformation makes up for it.

[SPLIT LIP]

I finally found him today.

Holy crap he is awesome.

Vehicle mode is sexy beyond coimprehension. I sometimes forget he's a robot in there. Bot mode is superb. had crappy paint on mine's head but I fix. Arms are limited at the shoulder but otehrwise fantastic articulation. Design is amazing, everythign I could ask of a realistic Transformer design.

The rotate joint on the upper arms where the yellow meets the black likes to pop off a lot, but it's getting less frequent. Gun is nice the way it hides in vehicular form. Transformation is aces.


EDIT: Sweet, looks like the gun can mount to his shoulder like a rocket launcher! That'll come in handy when Sideswipe comes out.

[Cataclizm1]

I found him today at TRU. This figure is so fun to transform and just flat our reeks of awesomeness! My new favorite classic toy.

[Soundwarp]

2 words: ME WANT!!!!!!!!!

+1

[Lupis Convoy]

Lucky guys that can find them in stores. :) I'm VERY jealous.

[Razerwire]

A solid figure. Second favorite behind Octane. Yes. You read right. Octane is friggen awesome.

Only gripes for me:

1. Ears. They're huge.

Other than that, no complaints.

Question though: on his rooftop engine/intake accessory, why are the intakes capable of folding inwards?

[Otispq]

Yep, my fav of the 1st wave of Classics 2.0! Just awesome in both modes, wish his back accesory was done right, but even if you just leave it off, he still rocks. Can't wait till the brothers get united!!

[aksmth]

Streaker's a great toy, my only gripe is his shoulders. The pivot thingime just seems to be in the way, and I'm not sure just how it's supposed to fit.

[Obvious Prime]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker05.jpg


I love this picture. So freaking awesome. Got any pics of the 'Swipe mode? And how do you him into 'Swipe mode? I hope I find one soon.

[SPLIT LIP]

I love this picture. So freaking awesome. Got any pics of the 'Swipe mode? And how do you him into 'Swipe mode? I hope I find one soon.From Sunstreaker mode:

Rotate head and legs around. (legs rotate at the waist) So they face the same direction as the car hood.

Remove the intakes from the hood and place them on the car roof.

Rotate the arms and then rotate the doors on the wrists to the outside. Now rotate the doors again on thier mount so they hang down lower than on Sunstreaker.

Pop off the hands and swap them. Put the gun on the shoulder peg.

Tada!

Question though: on his rooftop engine/intake accessory, why are the intakes capable of folding inwards?I don't know, but I would like to. At first I thought it was for a gun for Sideswipe or something but I don't know where it would attach.


EDIT: I really love this guy, but I have one complaint: the shoulders have very limited outwards movement.

[Lord Of Tetris]

I got a question about my Streaker:

The car-roof chest isn't straight in robot mode. I know that I have to turn the roof 180 degrees to Automorph the head out, but mine just stops after about 175 degrees. In robot mode, it looks lopsided, like this picture (which I took from the OP):

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/tamo536/Picture133-1.jpg

Mine looks like that, bit just a bit more sideways.

In any case, it does not look like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/zero_chance/Universe%20Classics/Sunstreaker05.jpg

Am I just transforming it wrong? Or do I have to open it up and do some gear re-alignment?

[REDLINE]

sounds like the latter to me.

[JOHNDILLINGA]

I covered everything i could in my review a few pages back (I hate that it got merged with Tamos review, but I guess it avoids clutter).
But my SS chest did the same thing, under the piece that holds the roof to the chest there's a plastic stopper tab that blocks it from addjusting propperly if you remove it it'll rotate in place slightly better but if you still have the same issues exploring the internal gears might be the next step...

[Lord Of Tetris]

I see what was wrong. For some strange, bizarre reason, my SS could only rotate about 170 degrees. The other 10 degrees could be possible if, say, I held my finger there, or if I put a rubber band on the figure. I took apart the screws and simply lowered the head one notch on the gear.

Now the chest piece is exactly where it needs to be in robot mode, and it's about 10 degrees sideways in car mode. And that's not a problem, because the robot legs and dashboard pegs hold it in place just as well as my fingers could.

Now I gotta worry about the hideous yellow paint on his car-roof chest...

[Skyfire21]

Question though: on his rooftop engine/intake accessory, why are the intakes capable of folding inwards?

Future Sideswipe Rocket Pack? idk, just my thought.

[Greyryder]

Just got this guy, today. He's frikkin' awesome! I may be a bit biased, as I'm a bit of a Sunstreaker fanboy. He was one of my first non minibot TFs.

I was a little put off by the partsformerness of the supercharger having to be removed from his roof, and pegged into his back. But, I discovered that with the intakes folded down, it clips onto the thickest part of his pistol. It gives him a bulkier, more aggressive looking gun.

[REDLINE]

but then he looks less streaker-ish without that behind his head. :( oh, and I hate you! :p

[SPLIT LIP]

I agree, the intake is one of the main reasons I got this guy. I could never have him in bot mode without it, myself.

[Ceerad]

Got this guy yesterday. These guys look like they have very simple transformations. But that is totally incorrect. Love the engineering on him. Amazing how they got both Streak and Swipe modes out of one bot. It shouoldn't be too long befor we see a custom Punch/Counterpunch version of this guy.

[Grimlock_13]

Fan-freaking-tastic Transformer. The vehicle mode is gorgous, and the robot mode is articulated and aestetically pleasing (to me, anyway). Te transformation is awesome! Simple automorphs work wonders, I love the head transformation! I don't have any issues on the car roof/ robot chest that I could tell. I simply cannot wait to get Sideswipe. Overall a great toy! Solid A on my grading scale.

[delta7890]

Just got this guy, today. He's frikkin' awesome! I may be a bit biased, as I'm a bit of a Sunstreaker fanboy. He was one of my first non minibot TFs.

I was a little put off by the partsformerness of the supercharger having to be removed from his roof, and pegged into his back. But, I discovered that with the intakes folded down, it clips onto the thickest part of his pistol. It gives him a bulkier, more aggressive looking gun.

I'd love to see a pic of that. I don't think anyone else has posted one.

[JOHNDILLINGA]

Just got this guy, today. He's frikkin' awesome! I may be a bit biased, as I'm a bit of a Sunstreaker fanboy. He was one of my first non minibot TFs.

I was a little put off by the partsformerness of the supercharger having to be removed from his roof, and pegged into his back. But, I discovered that with the intakes folded down, it clips onto the thickest part of his pistol. It gives him a bulkier, more aggressive looking gun.

I just tried it myself it does infact clip onto the gun the supercharger has slots in the fold down vents and between the two sets of pegs where it can lock onto the gun once you place it on top of the gun and push the vents close over the sides of the gun.

It does make for a more powerful bulkier gun, which Sideswipe may be posed with but as for Streaker the Supercharger stays behind his head.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/ClassicsStreakergun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/ClassicsStreakergun2.jpg

[delta7890]

Ooh, thanks man! That looks hot!

[Grimlock_13]

I just tried it myself it does infact clip onto the gun the supercharger has slots in the fold down vents and between the two sets of pegs where it can lock onto the gun once you place it on top of the gun and push the vents close over the sides of the gun.

It does make for a more powerful bulkier gun, which Sideswipe may be posed with but as for Streaker the Supercharger stays behind his head.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/ClassicsStreakergun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/ClassicsStreakergun2.jpg

Very cool. I'll be doing that with Sideswipe for sure since Sunstreaker needs those intakes behind his head.

[SPLIT LIP]

That's cool, but I won't be doing it with my 'Swipe as his gun is going on his shoulder for taht rocket launcher look.:)

[ShadowStitch]

I got him yesterday and opened him today...

The transformation is deliciously tricky but the resulting bot is solid, posable, brilliantly engineered and all-around awesome... EXCEPT for the WRETCHED paint apps.

On mine, half of his HEAD wasn't even painted, the spray apps are shoddy and half-assed, and I can already see I'm going to have to repaint most of him just to make him look PRESENTABLE. And that's AFTER I used alcohol to remove the paint splotches that fell on the windshield and rear quarter from the sloppy paint job.

Not to mention the points where the figure parts were removed from the sprue are all messy and the areas like the front of the hood are damaged right out of the package. Check out the head on mine -- poorly-painted and a chunk of his left cheek "vent" is gone, from where it was hastily broken off the sprue.

http://www.shadowstitch.com/images/crappy_streaker.jpg

I don't know what happened to Hasbro, but it seems like around halfway through the movie line, QA went down the drain, resulting in crappy paint apps, poor plastic quality with mismatched mold lines and sprue thorns...just plain sloppy!

I'm still planning to get the Henkei version when it comes out, (Chrome Intakes FTW) so here's hoping that he doesn't suffer from the same maladies.

[Greyryder]

Glad somebody got pictures of that. I haven't had a chance to take any, yet. I don't think Sideswipe will have the supercharger. That was always one of the things that set them apart.

ShadowStich, that sucks. I'd be pretty ticked, and I have the stuff to fix it. I just want to repaint the eyes, on mine. Sunstreaker = yellow eyes.

[Peaugh]

Glad somebody got pictures of that. I haven't had a chance to take any, yet. I don't think Sideswipe will have the supercharger. That was always one of the things that set them apart.

ShadowStich, that sucks. I'd be pretty ticked, and I have the stuff to fix it. I just want to repaint the eyes, on mine. Sunstreaker = yellow eyes.

Sideswipe as the supercharger, it attaches to his back in robot mode as his jet pack. Sits lower so it doesn't look like Sunstreaker's vents. I do like that supercharger gun though.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2127/2446172903_c43fc77abd.jpg?v=0

And for those wondering, that's even his new head. You can see how the forehead differs and the anntenae are shorter and start higher up on his head. I've seen a better pic of the Sideswipe head, I'm trying to find it.

Edit: Here we go:

http://tformers.com/g/albums/9353/005.jpg


As for Sunstreaker, he's everything I wanted from an update. He was one of my favorites as a child until I lost him, so having one to play with again is excellent.

Video review is up here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jJ0IG_eJI

[Peaugh]

Getting back to pics to go with the vids, here's Sunstreaker:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0094.jpg

Oh man, I LOVE this one. Sunstreaker was one of the few 84 cars I had as a kid, and he went damn near everywhere with me until I lost him in 7th grade. Oh, the horror! But now he's back with a kickin' new design:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0116.jpg

Vaguely Lamborghini-esque, entirely awesome. He's even fairly kibble free when viewed from the bottom:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0117.jpg

You can see how he folds up and how the gun becomes the exhaust at the rear of the car. Transformation is involved, with some neat gimmicks like the head reveal, but a little easier than Prowl's. Robot mode is classic Sunstreaker:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0108.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0109.jpg

You can even attach his backpack to the gun for a supercharged gun mode:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0111.jpg

And if you'd like a sneak peek at Sideswipe, here's his alternate transformation:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0113.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0114.jpg

Here's Sunstreaker with some of his compatriots:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0095.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/New%20pictorial%20reviews/DSCF0119.jpg


Sunstreaker is easily the best of the Wave 1 Universe/Classics 2.0 figs, and a personal favorite to boot. Pick him up if you see him while you still can!!


As always, video review available here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jJ0IG_eJI

[DVD]

Thanks for the pics and review. Couple of questions, though:
1) When in Sideswipe mode, how do you get the fists to face the correct way?
2) How does the gun and "engine" piece attach to each other?

[AndreyOfDoom]

Thanks for the pics and review. Couple of questions, though:
1) When in Sideswipe mode, how do you get the fists to face the correct way?
2) How does the gun and "engine" piece attach to each other?

You can pop them off right at the wrist. The sideswipe toy will come with the fists swapped so that they face the other way. If you look closely, when he did Sideswipe preview mode the fists are the wrong way.

[SPLIT LIP]

Am I the only one who can't the get the super-charger gun to stay together? It falls apart if you look at it funny on mine.

Excellent review, Peaugh. This figure is made of pure win.

[Ops_was_a_truck]

Man, that's such an awesome looking toy. I soooo cannot wait to pick him up.

[Soundblaster1]

Am I the only one who can't the get the super-charger gun to stay together? It falls apart if you look at it funny on mine.

Excellent review, Peaugh. This figure is made of pure win.

I can't get it to stay, either.

Sunstreaker is the one I was a bit skeptical about... But it's definitely my favorite of the wave.

[MilkManX]

I cant wait to nab this one! Looking forward to the rest of this line(the Deluxes anyway!)

[Shin Densetsu]

Freaking awesome man. The automorph was surprising, I wasn't expecting anything like that.

[Peaugh]

You can pop them off right at the wrist. The sideswipe toy will come with the fists swapped so that they face the other way. If you look closely, when he did Sideswipe preview mode the fists are the wrong way.

Am I the only one who can't the get the super-charger gun to stay together? It falls apart if you look at it funny on mine.

Excellent review, Peaugh. This figure is made of pure win.

Yeah, the supercharger attachment is tricky, it's a matter of just keeping at it until you get lucky and it stays, I've found. The underside is CLEARLY designed for it, but getting it to stay is an entirely different matter.

As for the fists, yes, you can pop them off at the wrist, although the Sidewipe release will likely have them already swapped.

[ChrisW]

If you attach the engine upside down in "Sideswipe" mode then you effectively get Sideswipe's jet pack.

Good find with the gun + engine super combo.

[Fit For natalie]

If you're wondering what car he is, he's a genericised Lambourghini Gallardo, with the rear end of a Diablo.

[Peaugh]

If you attach the engine upside down in "Sideswipe" mode then you effectively get Sideswipe's jet pack.

Good find with the gun + engine super combo.

It actually wasn't my find. Greyryder mentioned it and and Johndillinga posted pics in an earlier thread:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=179731&page=17

[JOHNDILLINGA]

Am I the only one who can't the get the super-charger gun to stay together? It falls apart if you look at it funny on mine.

Excellent review, Peaugh. This figure is made of pure win.

You have to make sure you line up the gaps in the Supercharger bottom with the shape of the gun and once you fold down the vents a lil force is needed for the gun to lock into the gaps on the rear bottom of the vents.

[T16skyhopp]

does the supercharged gun mount on a shoulder? could that be a feature reserved for sideswipe? and thats why its not mentioned in sunstreakers instructions?

[JOHNDILLINGA]

The standard gun mounts to the shoulders but as for the supercharger gun.... goes to check...






No, it forces up the fin on Sunstreaker's head and pushes it to the side making the head tilt.

Idk it might work with better with Sideswipe.

[My03Tundra]

So, I had to go to the mall to get my new glasses today and also went to KB Toys. I found the three Wave 1 deluxe figures, none of the Ultras. I passed on Prowl and Tankor, but bought Sunstreaker.

I opened him up at work and he is awesome. He looks like a direct update of his G1 self, and his car mode if very sleek and very Lamborghini like. He is cool just to look at while he sits in vehicle mode.

His transformation is a lot of fun, and I love the head reveal gimmick. Turning him around I can see him being Sideswipe, and I can't wait for his red repainted brother.

I give this figure a VERY solid A+. Well built and good paint applications.

[Kingplay]

got it, thinkin of repaintin him

[Kingplay]

loving the mold, hating the paint job, makes me want to touch it up

[Greyryder]

*makes room in the unused bits drawer for Sideswipe's supercharger*

[Obvious Prime]

Here's another pic of his Tigertrack mode:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/Obvious_Prime/IMG_0101.jpg

[Feralstorm]

I'll agree that Sunstreaker is the winner of the wave. (for me it's 'Streaker at the top, and Octankor at the bottom)

Pros:
* Clever design
* Looks great in both modes
* Good articulation.
* Accessories are fun to mess with.
* Head-reveal is pretty darn kewl.

Cons:
* Pretty large for a Classics deluxe. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but he looks like he could beat the crap out of Classics Starscream without breaking a sweat.
* Alternator-like, fiddly and annoying to get all parts lined up properly for car mode.
* I wish the kneecaps and arm-door-flaps (which remind me of Classics Bumblebee) could lock down somehow (like on Classics Bumblebee).
* I would have liked a small Autobot symbol on that little smooth part of the chest better than a big on over the ridged part.

[Optimus_Prowl]

Awsome review dude. I can't wait for him to come in. I just ordered both him and Prowl from TRU.com as they are currently in stock. It said I may have to wait a week but that's nothing compare to how cool these figures will be once they arrive. I am excited!

[Lord Moke]

Interesting problem I had when I tried to transform my Sunstreaker for the first time: The gears in his "automorph" gimmick were misaligned and his chest couldn't be straightened vertically. If anyone else has this problem, simply remove the five screws in his back and reposition everything correctly, then close him back up. Other than that (which seems to be an isolated incident) this is by far the best of the three.

[Rodr-Evil]

This line deserves boxes for deluxes, like old times.

[len_d69]

Sorry for the blurry pics. Here's my Streaker. I switched the hands and transform him like Sideswipe :) I attached his the gun on his shoulders as well :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/len_d69/HPIM0062_50.jpg

[Schide]

Interesting problem I had when I tried to transform my Sunstreaker for the first time: The gears in his "automorph" gimmick were misaligned and his chest couldn't be straightened vertically. If anyone else has this problem, simply remove the five screws in his back and reposition everything correctly, then close him back up. Other than that (which seems to be an isolated incident) this is by far the best of the three.

Mine is like that too. I'm gonna have to fix him eventually. I like him better facing the other way, so I'll leave him like that for now anyway.

[Feralstorm]

I notice when you place Sunstreaker and Classics Bumblebee next to each other, SS looks like the steroid-powered bigger brother. :)

[defstar]

Finally picked mine up lastnight...the best of the three in wave one imo...love the auto-transform with the head...his proportion are perfect, joints are tight, car mode goes together nice and snug and the scored chest look is perfect for his character...the toy is pretty much perfect...

[Autobot X]

Got him and Prowl today...Was mostly looking forward to Prowl, but Sunstreaker was a pleasant surprise. I was impressed at how solid and heavy he was, and how the parts were lined up so densely in his undercarriage. I am very happy with him.

One question: why do the gray parts on his engine attachment fold in?

[iheartarcee]

I love this figure!! Hes way more sturdy and hefty than prowl and has cooler gimmicks like the head automorph. This is definitely a keeper!

[artiepants]

Best Deluxe mold ever?

possibly. (i'd like to here what anyone thinks is better.)

Combines the style of Alternators and Classics with the advances in engineering of the movie line for a essentially perfect Transformer. Fantastic headsculpt, amazing lack of Robo kibble in car mode even looking directly at the bottom. the automorph is so sweet

my only complaints are the cheap yellow paint on the roof chest and my arms pop off at the bicep swivels pretty easy.

even with those complaints he's STILL an A+ in my book ( a grade i give incredibly sparingly.)

bring on Sideswipe (and HOPEFULLY Red Alert) Yesterday!!!

[solidus]

I just got mine yesterday ! Along with Prowl and Tankor .

[JOHNDILLINGA]

Possible Sideswipe alt transformation (cell phone pics).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/ClassicsSideswipetfation.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/Johndillinga/ClassicsSideswipetfation2.jpg

[SPLIT LIP]

Would'nt it just be easier to rotate the waist around?

How did you get the roof to stay pointing up?

[JOHNDILLINGA]

Would'nt it just be easier to rotate the waist around?

How did you get the roof to stay pointing up?


Remove the roof and spin the arm around, there's 2 lil tabs there, if you remove the right tab facing you the roof can rotate around freely after the head is raised and it doesn't effect the transformation of the head or hood.

As fo the waist it was a pic i used for Jin's kitbashed PCP fig to show an alt leg tf instead of the one he had (if you seen the thread).

[SPLIT LIP]

Oh yeah, forgot the roof could come off. Didn't know it could still clip on. Unfortunately that makes him a parts-former.

Jin used the top of the vehicle as the front of the legs, so there was no gap on the outside. I tried that once but it all depends on the joints. Mine were too stiff to act as knees like that.

[TCracker]

Just got mine today. Very faithful to the G1 roots...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/My%20TF%20Collections/P1000180.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/My%20TF%20Collections/P1000179.jpg

I got you in my sights...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/My%20TF%20Collections/P1000181.jpg

Compared to Alt Sunny..
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/My%20TF%20Collections/P1000184.jpg

"What are you looking at shrimp?!"
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/My%20TF%20Collections/P1000182.jpg

Very poseable for a deluxe and definitely worth my dosh. Getting Prowl next week:D


Now.....
Bring on Sideswipe!

[Autobot HipHop]

Just got mine today. Very faithful to the G1 roots...

Very poseable for a deluxe and definitely worth my dosh. Getting Prowl next week:D

Now.....
Bring on Sideswipe!

NIce pics, Deluxe SunStreaker's robot mode looks better then Alt Sunstreaker's robot mode IMHO. Of course the vehicle modes are no comparison.

Still don't know why they gave streaker some "nads" down there...

[SPLIT LIP]

They didn't. He's a toy robot. He doesn't have "nads".

[Autobot HipHop]

They didn't. He's a toy robot. He doesn't have "nads".

Ball bearings or whatever, they look awfully disturbing whatever they are intended to be lol

[SPLIT LIP]

Ball bearings or whatever, they look awfully disturbing whatever they are intended to be lolNot really. They look like brackets or maybe two cylinders. That's the problem, they're not ball-shaped.

[Shark Jumper]

I got Sunstreaker today, his chest plate won't rotate all the way leaving it slanted. So I opened him up and loosened the screw, now I need to spin the chest plate alot to get his head up and down....

[GogDog]

AMAZING figure. Probably my favorite Classics figure yet. I love the way the alternate transformation works to make Sideswipe. Best repaint ever.



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2669798314_4b8f6c4117.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2669798646_547ff2265d.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2669799074_ab981ce510.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2669797966_33474a0e44.jpg
(http://flickr.com/photos/gogdog)

[GogDog]

This figure is just so dynamic. I love how the shoulders can be angled backwards.



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2669607397_2432161fda.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2670429706_243b10bdd9.jpg
(http://flickr.com/photos/gogdog)

[JOHNDILLINGA]

Oh yeah, forgot the roof could come off. Didn't know it could still clip on. Unfortunately that makes him a parts-former.

Jin used the top of the vehicle as the front of the legs, so there was no gap on the outside. I tried that once but it all depends on the joints. Mine were too stiff to act as knees like that.

No no no, No parts forming at all, You just pop off the roof remove the molded tab on the right side under the swivel arm then re-attach the roof to the swivel arm and rotate the roof like normal around again till you get the roof the way I have it.

[TCracker]

Dammit, Sunny is so kick ass I can't put him down, better than the Animated stuffs I have. :D

Grey plastic = FAIL
Painted silver over grey = WIN
(Seriously, the pics did not turn out right, looks awesome in person)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/Kitbashes/P1000186.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/Kitbashes/P1000187.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/Kitbashes/P1000188.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/Kitbashes/P1000190.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/tzey/Kitbashes/P1000189.jpg

Getting another to paint it over with Alt Deadend color scheme :D

[artiepants]

Dammit, Sunny is so kick ass I can't put him down, better than the Animated stuffs I have. :D
well, duh :p:drunk

[Renidragon]

Went to Walmart today to pick up a prescription for my girlfriend, so while she was doing that, I wandered, feeling kinda hopeless, over to the toy section to see if they had FINALLY gotten some Animated toys in stock (closest place that's had em has been 30 minutes or more away). Well, considering the thread this is posted in, I'm sure you can imagine what I got very giddy about. :) (yes, that's copy/pasted from my Prowl post).

Holy crap. I have not been able to put this guy down. He actually tops Mirage as my favorite deluxe. Granted, he doesn't have the balance of Mirage, but he DOES have just about every point of articulation Mirage does (no double jointed legs), and THEN SOME.

Transformation is a little fiddly, like said before, but nothing too difficult. I was ABOUT to be pretty disappointed in him cause his back part/hood of the car wouldn't connect securely in bot mode. If you have this problem, there's an easy fix I found by total accident. Pull the whole assembly all the way up. ;)

Bot mode looks awesome in pictures, but even better in person. This dude looks like he's ready for anything. Except scratches in his paintjob. ;) He's buff, he's tall (as tall as Prowl, anyways, just slightly taller than Mirage's shoulder wheels), he looks as badass as he thinks he is. I guess his gun's a little small? :lol

I LOVE the alt mode. It's simple, but I like that about it. The engine looks a little oddly placed, but it's a pretty cool detail. And if I'm not in the mood for it... I can take it off! I'm not wild about exposed faction symbols, but I think that's just a leftover from Alternators. It's really not that big a deal. My favorite part, though, has to be his liscence plate: "WE R 84". That's just... an awesome throwback.

I can't wait for Sideswipe. This guy is A+, definitely. Bonus points for having two robot modes. Awesome in alt mode, awesome in both bot modes, versatile weapon (though the combined gun is kinda insecure for me) and places to put it... there's just a lot to do with this guy, and it's all awesome. They really hit the nail on the head here, if you ask me.

[artiepants]

I was ABOUT to be pretty disappointed in him cause his back part/hood of the car wouldn't connect securely in bot mode. If you have this problem, there's an easy fix I found by total accident. Pull the whole assembly all the way up. ;)

heh, i totally had that problem too ~ one of my engines was actually popped just slight off the nubbin' it attaches to and wouldn't fold up level or attach to the car tightly, i was gonna be annoyed until i realized i just had to pop it into place :D

[AutobotMarine]

I REALLY dig this figure, I happen to be a fan of the head mold.

*checks my local Wal-Mart*

[JetStreaker]

I think it's easily the best deluxe figure of wave 1 universe so far. Great in both modes and a satisfying transformation.. and all for 10 bucks. Nice
-Jet

[Autobot HipHop]

I think it's easily the best deluxe figure of wave 1 universe so far. Great in both modes and a satisfying transformation.. and all for 10 bucks. Nice
-Jet


Wow, first post? Let me guess, you're a big Sunstreaker fan? :)

This figure is awesome, can't wait for the universe Ironhide

Question....Sunstreaker > Bumblebee??? Whose the better yellow autobot?

[JetStreaker]

Wow, first post? Let me guess, you're a big Sunstreaker fan? :)

This figure is awesome, can't wait for the universe Ironhide

Question....Sunstreaker > Bumblebee??? Whose the better yellow autobot?

Since I had 'streaker' in the handle, I figured.. why fight it? :)

I'll second Universe Ironhide.. generally, and for whatever reason, Deluxe offerings have always appealed to me more.

Hmm.. who's the better bot? From strictly a character POV, my vote is for Bumblebee.. but if we're talking figures, SS takes it (IMHO of course).
-Jet

[Zzeezz]

I just got this figure today. From the pictures I saw online, I was expecting a really skinny, spindly-limbed figure. Damn, was I wrong. This guy is seriously bulky (in a good way). He looks like the ultimate Autobot warrior he's supposed to be.

[spamo123]

Dammit, Sunny is so kick ass I can't put him down, better than the Animated stuffs I have. :D

Grey plastic = FAIL
Painted silver over grey = WIN

Getting another to paint it over with Alt Deadend color scheme :D

Tcracker your Streaker looks awesome. What kind of paint did you use and brand? Can you discuss the process of how you did it? Does the paint rub off if you touch or transform it too much or did you spray a top coat?

[TCracker]

I used Gunze Sangyo Mr. Color Silver. And the best part is I do not have to topcoat if as the paint does not flake off. Just avoid Mr. Metal Color, those damn thing smears all over the place - read: your fingers. :D :D


PM Me for details :D

[payres]

Has anyone mentioned how the gun doesn't quite fit underneath the car mode correctly (tailpipe section). Possibly will be better sized before the final release. I believe all packaged Universe figs are packaging mock ups / store samples at the moment.

I struggled with mine to start with but ended pushing the halves of the back together which then let me slipped the gun on.

For a bit more of a difference in Sideswipe mode try flipping the waist round and then turning the legs so the vents down the back of the car are down the front of the lower leg. Will balance fine like that without the extra feet folded down. Plus I believe if they assemble the legs the other way round at the lower knee joint it'll all still TF OK.

[General Tekno]

Yeah - the gun stays in great in vehicle mode.

I almost lost the engine twice at TFCon. But the gun stayed in.

[Renidragon]

I struggled with mine to start with but ended pushing the halves of the back together which then let me slipped the gun on.

For a bit more of a difference in Sideswipe mode try flipping the waist round and then turning the legs so the vents down the back of the car are down the front of the lower leg. Will balance fine like that without the extra feet folded down. Plus I believe if they assemble the legs the other way round at the lower knee joint it'll all still TF OK.

Right... cause this way, the screws in the back of the crotch area and the thights are facing forward. I like the look, too, but my SS gets REAL back heavy... he only has one loose ankle joint, but that's not the issue... he tips back regardless, even if I put his arms forward in a "hug me!" pose.

[payres]

Right... cause this way, the screws in the back of the crotch area and the thights are facing forward. I like the look, too, but my SS gets REAL back heavy... he only has one loose ankle joint, but that's not the issue... he tips back regardless, even if I put his arms forward in a "hug me!" pose.

The crotch is easily cured - pop the legs off at the hips and swap them over. Doesn't hinder TF. I'd like to be able to swap just the lower legs but that looks like it might be a bit tricky - I Imadinethe yellow plastic goes through the black knee joint. *BUT* it shows it would be possible to put the toy together just slightly diufferently and get it to all fit.

[Whovian Zorker]

I wondered how different Sideswipe could look from Sunstreaker with no remolding whatsoever. (And, since I lack painting and pin-removing skills, with no repainting either.)

Here are the changes I made:
1. Removed the screw from the back of the head so I could take of the ears. (Don't lose the tiny springs!)
2. Took apart the arm assembly by detaching the shoulder from the body, the upper arm from the shoulder, and the fists from the wrists. Swapped the shoulders and fists, while leaving the the arms (with doors) on the original sides.
3. Removed the screws from the back of the (gray) thighs, and swapped the lower legs.

Presenting...Custom Sideswipe before his sunburn. (Isn't that how he got so red?)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2681888881_985326e76d_m.jpg
(Larger pic here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28802423@N08/2681888881/). I just signed up for flickr, so hopefully this works okay.)

A few caveats:
1. Unfortunately, he has a large hole in his head.
2. It's still hard to get that "missile launcher" attached to his shoulder without it coming apart. It's not as bad as tight a fit as Cyb. Soundwave, but there's still not much space in between.
3. He can't pose quite as dynamically with his knees bending to the side, but he still balances pretty well. (The black feet can be rotated so that the toes are pointing down and back for an extra point of contact with the ground.
4. It's a little trickier to attach the tailpipe in alt mode, since those ... um ... pistons ... are facing toward the ground and push against the business end of the gun.

Even with those caveats, it makes for a nice added contrast between the two 'bots.

[Shark Jumper]

Getting the engine to fit over the gun must have been quite a challenge.

[Whovian Zorker]

Getting the engine to fit over the gun must have been quite a challenge.

Well, if it weren't so fiddly to fit together under normal circumstances, it would have been a lot easier. I put the gun on the shoulder, turned the hood sideways so that the head went halfway down, clipped the engine over the gun, then turned the hood back to normal position.

[superquad7]

*snip* I'm not wild about exposed faction symbols, but I think that's just a leftover from Alternators.*snip*

I agree. My preferences also align with the "robots in disguise" motif. I have to say that the Alternators deliberately had their faction symbols hidden for the most part (Side Swipe, Prowl, Ricochet, Mirage, and Rodimus are the only ones with exposed faction symbols in alt mode). Out of 27 Alternators, five (5) is the overwhelming minority, and I can live with that. I'd wished that all 27 of them had them absent in alt mode though.

I really like Sunstreaker, but the quality of the plastic isn't a far cry from a KO it feels like to me. I love the transform and the overall design a LOT. The repaint nature of this piece is really cool too (smart move Hasbro! :wink:). However, the arms on mine can't make a full rotation without them popping off. I have to say that I feel quite a bit let down with this guy, despite him still being really cool.

[Whovian Zorker]

I'm not wild about exposed faction symbols, but I think that's just a leftover from Alternators.

Huh? The Alternators deliberately had their faction symbols hidden for the most part (Side Swipe, Prowl, Ricochet, Mirage, and Rodimus are the only ones with exposed faction symbols in alt mode). Out of 27 Alternators, five (5) is the overwhelming minority (unless you're counting undercarriages, in which case that point would take itself outside of the Alternators line).

I think the 'Dragon meant his not-wildness about exposed faction symbols was because he had gotten used to their absence in the Alternators line.

[superquad7]

I think the 'Dragon meant his not-wildness about exposed faction symbols was because he had gotten used to their absence in the Alternators line.

I'm um from Bizarro world. Yeah that's it!

(heh, reading FTW! It would help if I had done my share!)

*eats his foot with mustard*

:lol

*EDIT: I edited my previous post to reflect me actually reading with the education I have :lol Thanks for pointing that out for me :confused2

[Optimus Scourge]

Like him a lot, but I'm with SQ7, I will also say he feels a tad cheap, like a "good KO" if you will, and the arms are bothersome, but I guess I can overlook it, considering the custom possibilities :)

I really want to do a Punch/Counterpunch, maybe with this one and get the Henkei version for the chrome engine.

One simple chrome app makes a hell of a difference...sure wish the Hasbro one had it.

[superquad7]

Like him a lot, but I'm with SQ7, I will also say he feels a tad cheap, like a "good KO" if you will, and the arms are bothersome, but I guess I can overlook it, considering the custom possibilities :)

I really want to do a Punch/Counterpunch, maybe with this one and get the Henkei version for the chrome engine.

One simple chrome app makes a hell of a difference...sure wish the Hasbro one had it.

I still think it's funny that we said it at the same time while we were talking last night. :lol

However, I think my posts in this thread demonstrate why I'd be concerned for your mental health at this point. You're thinking like me, and that's a caution flag for your life right there :lol