Shockwave's screwed

[G1Wheeljack]

WARNING, SPOILERS FOR SEASON 2 FINALE!



Now that Shockwave's revealed himself to BB I assume he will try to tell Magnus or somebody up in command about Shockwave. However with no real evidence they can't prosecute him right away but they can still perform an investigation on Longarm Prime. So if I was Shockwave I'd get the **** out of dodge before it's too late. Does anyone think this will play into season 3 or will BB be completley irresponsible and forget that a decepticon has a high rank position in the Autobot ranks?

[Sol Fury]

I think season 3 could well open with Shockwave fleeing Cybertron and rallying his soldiers, heading for Earth in search of Megatron and the ones who defeated him. It's unlikely his double-agent status can remain intact, the other Primes at least will know he's a traitor once the word reaches them. But maybe they'll cover it up, since they don't want to cause a panic on Cybertron by admitting they've had a Decepticon in the ranks for a few dozen stellar cycles.

[Omega Charge]

I think he was stupid for revealing himself, but I guess he thinks little of the Autobots. Having a high rank and all, it might be hard to prosecute him due to the word of a few repair bots. Ultra Magnus would have to get involved somewhere, and Sentinel Prime could even be a factor.

[Vince]

Maybe he'll come to earth and lead the Decepticons (and in the process get a new earth-based alternate mode)

[MegaHavok]

With omega destroyed do they even have a way to contact cybertron??

[SPLIT LIP]

With omega destroyed do they even have a way to contact cybertron??They still have their communications center at the plant, of course, it only works if someone from Cybertron contacts them. (or so we've been led to believe at this point)

I think he was stupid for revealing himself.Why? At that point everyone beleived that Megatron would win and the Autobots there would be destroyed, so why bother with the disguise? Afterall, any proper Decepticon wouldn't miss the chance to put an Autobot down, to make them feel as if they were the villian. :ev:

[Omega Charge]

Why? At that point everyone beleived that Megatron would win and the Autobots there would be destroyed, so why bother with the disguise? Afterall, any proper Decepticon wouldn't miss the chance to put an Autobot down, to make them feel as if they were the villian. :ev:

I guess I relate to your argument, but I thought Shockwave would be more careful about something so important. There's always the small chance of something going wrong, and Shockwave just seems to intelligent to do something like rub it in.

[Moroni Prime]

With omega destroyed do they even have a way to contact cybertron??

I don't really think Omega Supreme was destroyed. I just think he went through the spacebridge butt-first, with head, hands and feet last. Imagine the look on shockwaves one-eyed face when he sees a gigantic yellow robot booty heading right for him straight out of the spacebrige warpgate. I'd imagine his tiny red eye grew to cartoonish proportions right before contact.

[mirarage]

I think he was stupid for revealing himself

Actually, its a standard plot in comics, film and tv.

1.villian fight hero
2.villian overpowers hero
3.villian captures hero
4.villian, thinking he's won final battle,
gloats to hero
5.villian reveals entire plan since
"hero can't stop me"
6.villian place hero in overly thought-out death trap
7.hero escape death trap easily
8.hero confronts villian
9.villian's jaw drops "how did he escape"
10.villian gets his

"the incredibles" refered to it as monologing

epilogue: villian escapes, forgetting
how he blew the first time.

[Vampyr]

i think he has enough decepticon rise or come on cybertron cause the signal of megatron.
so he's probably not worried about ultramag or autobots who know he's shockwave.
also, if megatron and his crew attempt to come on cybertron, its probably in a secret zone and shockwave is there with the rest of decepticons

[SPLIT LIP]

I don't really think Omega Supreme was destroyed. I just think he went through the spacebridge butt-first, with head, hands and feet last. Imagine the look on shockwaves one-eyed face when he sees a gigantic yellow robot booty heading right for him straight out of the spacebrige warpgate. I'd imagine his tiny red eye grew to cartoonish proportions right before contact.What makes you think Omega went to Cybertron? Shockwave explicitly stated that the Spacebridge was no longer bound for Cybertron. (after being shutdown) He could be anywhere.

[onesock]

PROTIP: If you guys think for one second that Shockwave can't hold his own against even the Elite Guard, you're about to have another thing coming.

[SPLIT LIP]

PROTIP: If you guys think for one second that Shockwave can't hold his own against even the Elite Guard, you're about to have another thing coming.He has a point. Shockwave is a Decepticon. If he's anywhere near as powerful as say, Starscream...

[onesock]

He has a point. Shockwave is a Decepticon. If he's anywhere near as powerful as say, Starscream...
Starscream would be lucky if he's even as close to being as powerful as Shockwave.

Wink wink nudge nudge.

[Torque]

hello!! Longarm Prime is the Prime of COMMUNICATIONS!!! i figure that makes him like an operator. so all calls going into Cybertron would be filtered by Longarm-so to get the word to Magnus, they would have to tell an Autobot directly who would then go to Magnus and tell him directly. while i believe he wasnt too smart in revealing his doubleagent status, which i understand as he thought Megatron was about to invade, he has nothing to worry about.

unless the writers dont use him as an operator kinda guy and totally ignore what i said lol

[SPLIT LIP]

hello!! Longarm Prime is the Prime of COMMUNICATIONS!!!Intelligence, not communications. Though if the Autoboot camp is anything to go by, they would need to contact him to report the breach. Of course, if the ABs were smart, they'ed contact Magnus directly.

[Torque]

dang!! someone the other day said he was head of communications... oops ^_^'

maybe he can still screen out all incoming communications from earth.

[Omega Charge]

Actually, its a standard plot in comics, film and tv.

1.villian fight hero
2.villian overpowers hero
3.villian captures hero
4.villian, thinking he's won final battle,
gloats to hero
5.villian reveals entire plan since
"hero can't stop me"
6.villian place hero in overly thought-out death trap
7.hero escape death trap easily
8.hero confronts villian
9.villian's jaw drops "how did he escape"
10.villian gets his

"the incredibles" refered to it as monologing

epilogue: villian escapes, forgetting
how he blew the first time.

Sigh.

Kids tv...

[Incepticon]

I think it would be cool if they went an entirely different direction with the Shockwave situation. Rather than have him go underground or flee Cybertron to go meet up with Megs on Earth (which would make NO sense imo), maybe he could instead do some advanced damage control by placing the Elite Guard under arrest for a fake charge of treason, thereby taking them out of the equation *before* Bumblebee has a chance to rat him out and expose him, and subsequently squashing any chance for potential prosecution. That could very well place him in the position of Cybertron Commander (ala G1), allow for a series of questionable decisions that other Cybertronians start to question, give the Autobots on Earth a concerted reason to find a way back home, and ultimately make his fall from power or exposure of his true allegience that much more epic when the times comes. Kind of a Wizard Of Oz vs. Chancellor Palpatine vs. The Departed scenario.

Or something like that. :)

[Ironhide2005]

I think season 3 could well open with Shockwave fleeing Cybertron and rallying his soldiers, heading for Earth in search of Megatron and the ones who defeated him. It's unlikely his double-agent status can remain intact, the other Primes at least will know he's a traitor once the word reaches them. But maybe they'll cover it up, since they don't want to cause a panic on Cybertron by admitting they've had a Decepticon in the ranks for a few dozen stellar cycles.

What he said

[Caine]

Flee to Earth, or to Moon, regroup with other Decepticons found along his way on the abandoned Nemesis, and make constant contacts with Soundwave's group on Earth.

[jazz4ever]

yeah that was sorta not smart of him to just show BB that he really is a traitor

[eternalshades]

dude, I know if I was an intel agent for the latter part of 50 years minimum and am reknown for my intelligence, i would have laid down so many contingencies that even if I was forced to reveal myself due to the plot, any enemy would have to wade through tons of stuff before he'd even get near me.

I always have considered shockwave basically one of thee worst people to fight because of this. And that's not even counting his powerful physical stats.

I hope animated does him in a similar bent.

[Lockdown]

I think it would be cool if they went an entirely different direction with the Shockwave situation. Rather than have him go underground or flee Cybertron to go meet up with Megs on Earth (which would make NO sense imo), maybe he could instead do some advanced damage control by placing the Elite Guard under arrest for a fake charge of treason, thereby taking them out of the equation *before* Bumblebee has a chance to rat him out and expose him, and subsequently squashing any chance for potential prosecution. That could very well place him in the position of Cybertron Commander (ala G1), allow for a series of questionable decisions that other Cybertronians start to question, give the Autobots on Earth a concerted reason to find a way back home, and ultimately make his fall from power or exposure of his true allegience that much more epic when the times comes. Kind of a Wizard Of Oz vs. Chancellor Palpatine vs. The Departed scenario.

Or something like that. :)


WTF? How the hell would he manage to put the Elite Guard under arest? The entire Elite Guard or are you under misconception that the Elite Guard is a small organization and not what essentially amounts to an intergalactic police force?

[Incepticon]

WTF? How the hell would he manage to put the Elite Guard under arest? The entire Elite Guard or are you under misconception that the Elite Guard is a small organization and not what essentially amounts to an intergalactic police force?
Huh, I must have missed the episode(s) where they explained that the EG were an intergalactic police force. As far as I could tell, it was headed by Magnus, Sentinel & Jazz, with a few other troops like Blurr scattered around to monitor things. It seemed to me that since they're all currently off Cybertron (as far as I remembered anyway), Shockwave could possibly use their absence to his advantage now that he's also a Prime.

Guess I'm wrong. We should get bent out of shape about it.

[Lockdown]

While Ill give you that most of the Elite Guard are apparently all over the shop fighting Decepticon flare ups Ive always gotten the distinct inpression that the Elite Guard are the Autobot armed forces the name Elite Guard does imply a smaller organization but the way its been portrayed is if your Autobot Military then your Elite Guard.

And the basis your using for your asumption is that only 3 Elite Guard arrived to collect Optimus Primes crew and most likely due to the presence of the allspark the Elite Guard supreme commander came personelly along with 2 hand picked Elite Guard and since then only Blurr has come to Earth a conflict zone that even with the allsparks presence has clearly been put low on the priority list by UM.

If anything Autoboot Camp really put forth that the Elite Guards ranks are hardly thin.

[Dolza_Khyron]

not really, shockwave is an elite guard member right? he could easily convince sentnel prime that optimus prime and his crew are traitors, thus not to believe a single word that comes out of their mouths, for they are working for the decepetions who they let escape the earth.

at least that is what i would do at this point, if i was writing the plot.

[Lockdown]

not really, shockwave is an elite guard member right? he could easily convince sentnel prime that optimus prime and his crew are traitors, thus not to believe a single word that comes out of their mouths, for they are working for the decepetions who they let escape the earth.

at least that is what i would do at this point, if i was writing the plot.

This would only be useful as a short term option to give Shockwave a little breathing room to make his exit he would be an outright idiot to try to retain his position.

On a side note those mentioning the foolishness of revealing himself apart from whats already been stated concerning his belief that they had won.
IMO The real reason that it was done was to advance the Wasp storyline as nothing was going to be able to convey just how tragic Wasps situation is more than to have Longarm reveal himself as the Real traitor really it was essential to that story thread otherwise Wasp would simply be treated as a deserving enemy anything he said about not being a traitor would simply not have been believed.

Now when Wasp/Waspinator does confront Bumblebee the situation is far more involved and interesting as Bumblebee and indeed his teammates are going to know that Wasp really never did anything wrong and that while they will obviously protect Bumblebee he is still fully responsible for what happened to Wasp and they all know it and as I say they wouldnt have been able to deliver this kind of depth if Shockwave hadnt revealed himself in the way he did.

[Autovolt 127]

Shockwave I suggest you run......

[MaikeruSan]

That would be cool to see him come to earth and lead. LUGNUT TURN OUT TO BE HIS BROTHER!!!!!!!!!! ^.^

[UltraDevmodious]

Well since Megatron is freely floating in space…it’s only logical that shockwave would attempt to go find his wayward leader.

[MaikeruSan]

Well since Megatron is freely floating in space…it’s only logical that shockwave would attempt to go find his wayward leader.

Ehay what if soundwave takes over? I never thought about that

[shroobmaster]

Ehay what if soundwave takes over? I never thought about that

If he wanted to do that, he would've done it when Megatron was "dead" for 50 years.

[Takara_destron]

If he wanted to do that, he would've done it when Megatron was "dead" for 50 years.

Soundwave wasnt around when Megatron was "dead"