Animated Voyager Optimus feedback

[Peaugh]

He's awesome! Very cool, nice transformation that, aside from the fact that his fists are attached, is almost dead on G1, the chin plate doesn't look nearly as goofy in the down position as some pics would have you believe. He looks, aside from the axe, almost exactly like his animation model came to life. The "Gravity Spin" conversion is a mixed bag. It looks cool, when it works, and getting it back into position when going back to vehicle mode is a pain. Think of what happens if you get off a click or two during Starscream's auto-transform feature, and add the fact that this piece has to SPIN as well, and you get an idea. Still, it's a minor trade off for such an awesome figure. I'll post some pics with the group in a few minutes. I won't do a detailed photoshoot right now, since D Banks did one recently.



And now, the pics!


Comparison:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/DSCF0001-10.jpg


A somewhat Fuzzy vehicle mode pic:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/DSCF0002-7.jpg


"Sir, I'm going to ask you to step out of the vehicle":

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/DSCF0003-6.jpg


Still the tallest:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/DSCF0004-4.jpg


All together now:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/DSCF0007-2.jpg




This last pic is of a problem area:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/DSCF0010-1.jpg

That joint I've outlined on the thigh? That's clearly one of those "meant to break apart if exceessive force is applied" safety joints. There's no movement, and it doesn't get used for transformation either. But if you pull too hard on the legs they pop off at that joint. it's just a plastic peg/hole type of joint, and mine was so loose that his right leg wouldn't stay on if you picked him up, and the left didn't take much more effort to fall off. It was a simple matter to superglue them in place (again, affecting the figure not one bit.) I'm curious if anyone else has had similar issues. Regardless, it's something to be aware of. Thankfully it's an easy fix, since you'll never be able to tell if it's loose or not in the box.

[NGW]

Thanks for the pics and review.

How I envy those of you with the animated figures. God I can't wait for them to hit shelves.

[KA]

:banghead:

[Peaugh]

Some action shots with the face plate up:

Optimus with axe/drone companion:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/0305080303.jpg

Swinging the Axe:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/0305080305.jpg


Got you in my sights:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/0305080306.jpg


Just posed:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/0305080310a.jpg



Not the best, they were taken with my phone camera at work. I'll have more detailed pics of everyone when BA and Ratchet show up in the next couple of days.

[KA]

i am so in love with this figure. it might become my fave prime of all time.

[Peaugh]

i am so in love with this figure. it might become my fave prime of all time.

It IS an awesome figure. It immediately jumped up to #2 on my favorites list, and may actually topple Lockdown from the #1 spot.

[joopsta]

I'm loving this Prime all the way!! I keep transforming him all the time. He's very solid!
And Peaugh, don't play at work!!

[Archatron]

So for the most part, these are kind of close to actual scale. I know the deluxe Prime and B -head arent but the rest are pretty accurate. Except Lockdown being taller that V.Prime but thats still the right size he was in the show, wasnt it?

[jtuarus]

i want you all to know im in the crack club also im just in the first stage: DENAIL

[Peaugh]

So for the most part, these are kind of close to actual scale. I know the deluxe Prime and B -head arent but the rest are pretty accurate. Except Lockdown being taller that V.Prime but thats still the right size he was in the show, wasnt it?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Lockdown and Voyager Op are in scale with each other. In vehicle mode too.

[Peaugh]

i want you all to know im in the crack club also im just in the first stage: DENAIL

Don't worry, we'll get you to acceptance. As in, "your package was accepted for delivery at 4:56 pm on March 10th." :D

[jtuarus]

as of now all i need to keep up wit u is the voyager ops but id love to get ratchet to have a full autobot team also

[Optimus Scourge]

I can't wait for mine to show up!

[Peaugh]

as of now all i need to keep up wit u is the voyager ops but id love to get ratchet to have a full autobot team also


LOL. YOu'll also need a Ratchet and a Blackarachnia to keep up at this point. They should be here tomorrow or Friday. :D


Edit: and Lugnut. :lol

[Robogeek28]

Holy crap, Lockdown's taller!!:eek:


As for Prime, gorgeous, summer can't get here soon enough!

[Peaugh]

Holy crap, Lockdown's taller!!:eek:


As for Prime, gorgeous, summer can't get here soon enough!


Yeah, Lockdown remains the tallest of the 10 Animated figures I've gotten. It'll probably take a leader class figure to knock him off the tallest pedestal.

[Robogeek28]

Yeah, Lockdown remains the tallest of the 10 Animated figures I've gotten. It'll probably take a leader class figure to knock him off the tallest pedestal.

Now that's cartoon accuracy right there.:thumbs2:

[SPLIT LIP]

Man, this guy'll look ghreat next to Leader Megs and Bulkhead.

Best Prime EVAH.

[Ra88]

Mixed feelings on this one. Loved the prototype, but now...I dunno, I guess he's a little TOO toyish, unlike the deluxe version. :/

[Eradicator94]

Can he hold the ax without his arm dropping down?

[Kouri]

Any chance that I'll be able to disable that silly spin-form gimmick?

[Peaugh]

Can he hold the ax without his arm dropping down?

Yep.

[Peaugh]

Any chance that I'll be able to disable that silly spin-form gimmick?


It looks like it's just a simple gear system. I'd imagine you could get in there, remove one gear and disable it. I'll take a look in a little bit.

[joopsta]

Why would you wanna remowe the gravity spin? It's COOL!!!

[D Banks]

cool pics when did you get him, they have been hitting ebay hard after mines hit. what are the odds that we have all the same animated figures, I guess you hit ebay just as hard as i did.

[Peaugh]

I don't currently have the two pack, but other than that I've got:

Cybertron Optimus
Voyager Optimus
Lockdown
Prowl
Voyager Megatron
Bulkhead
Bumblebee
Starscream

Ratchet and Blackarachnia should get here today, and Voyager Lugnut should get here next Thursday/Friday.

[Peaugh]

Any chance that I'll be able to disable that silly spin-form gimmick?

Actually, I take that back. I think it's still possible, but you're going to have to knock the pins out of both arms to get to a couple of screws that hold a piece in place that in turn holds everything else together. Not worth the effort really for a feature that's only mildly annoying when it causes problems.

[D Banks]

I don't currently have the two pack, but other than that I've got:

Cybertron Optimus
Voyager Optimus
Lockdown
Prowl
Voyager Megatron
Bulkhead
Bumblebee
Starscream

Ratchet and Blackarachnia should get here today, and Voyager Lugnut should get here next Thursday/Friday.


my ratchet and blackarachnia should come next week, Ima do a video review, so keep an eye open for that

[D Banks]

I don't currently have the two pack, but other than that I've got:

Cybertron Optimus
Voyager Optimus
Lockdown
Prowl
Voyager Megatron
Bulkhead
Bumblebee
Starscream

Ratchet and Blackarachnia should get here today, and Voyager Lugnut should get here next Thursday/Friday.


Still dude you have an immpresive collection, I cant wait for the next lugnut to hit, because once one pops up on ebay, more come to follow, I cant wait to see those feedback pics, I just got lockdown 2pack and prowl yesterday, Thanks for the awesome pics. Which one is your favorites, mines are Voyager prime prowl and lockdown.

[Peaugh]

Still dude you have an immpresive collection, I cant wait for the next lugnut to hit, because once one pops up on ebay, more come to follow, I cant wait to see those feedback pics, I just got lockdown 2pack and prowl yesterday, Thanks for the awesome pics. Which one is your favorites, mines are Voyager prime prowl and lockdown.


Yeah, right now Voyager Prime and Lockdown are practically tied at the top of my list. I'm really looking forward to Lugnut as well.

[Lumpy]

wahts this gravity spin thing? how did i miss that....

[Peaugh]

D Banks shows it in his video review. Basically, you push a button on his back and his legs spin down into their position in robot mode automatically.

[MugenAutobot]

<--------Can not wait to get these!

[Eradicator94]

Yep.

YAY!

I just don't know why it looks so much different from the cartoon form...

Anyway, the fig looks great. Just hope the spin feature isn't crap.

[microclone]

im thinking this is my favourite prime ever.

animated is the first time since G1 that TF have really grabbed my attention. I have about 70 TF toys, about 75% are reissue or vintage G1's, the other 25% are sporadic energon/binaltech/movie/BW/universe/classics/masterpiece toys that ive liked, the difference with these toys is that i want to buy just about all of them, the only one i dont really care for is lockdown (a firm favourite I know). its going to be fun, ive never gone into a store and bought a whole stack of TF but when wave 1 arrives i may just be doing that!!

[Peaugh]

YAY!

I just don't know why it looks so much different from the cartoon form...

Anyway, the fig looks great. Just hope the spin feature isn't crap.

It's not crap. It's pretty cool once you get used to it. The frustration comes initially while you learn how to get it lined up going back to vehicle mode. Once you do though, it's nifty.

[airfox]

These pics have made something for Prime no previous figure, animation or movie has in the past: he actually looks better without the faceplate.

I know, I know. BLASPHEMY! But, that's just IMO. :)

-airfox

[Optimus Scourge]

if you pull too hard on the legs they pop off at that joint. it's just a plastic peg/hole type of joint, and mine was so loose that his right leg wouldn't stay on if you picked him up, and the left didn't take much more effort to fall off. It was a simple matter to superglue them in place (again, affecting the figure not one bit.) I'm curious if anyone else has had similar issues. Regardless, it's something to be aware of. Thankfully it's an easy fix, since you'll never be able to tell if it's loose or not in the box.

Same. exact. thing. Well, Superglue will work, and not affect the figure, but I don't want to glue it, so I'll try to coat with clear nail polish, let it cure, then re-attach the leg and it should tighten it up. Usually works like a charm :)

[Optimus62]

:jawdropper: He is awesome!!! The best Prime so far.

Summer can't come soon enough.


Like your collection man.

[Peaugh]

:jawdropper: He is awesome!!! The best Prime so far.

Summer can't come soon enough.


Like your collection man.


Thanks! It's only getting bigger. :)

As for Prime, he really is quite awesome. Possibly Best Prime EVAR!

[Kouri]

Thanks! It's only getting bigger. :)

As for Prime, he really is quite awesome. Possibly Best Prime EVAR!

Best Prime in the $0 - $40 price range? I'm rather fond of MP Prime. =(

[Peaugh]

Best Prime in the $0 - $40 price range? I'm rather fond of MP Prime. =(

And you still can be! I just think Animated Prime is an excellent figure. Easily the best Prime from any recent series.

[bran10]

would you recommend this one, or the deluxe?

[Peaugh]

would you recommend this one, or the deluxe?

THAT is a tough question. They both rule for different reasons. I'd say get both if you can, but if you can only have one, grab the voyager. He is representative of the Optimus on the show, while we only see his Cybertron mode a couple of times.

[Avon]

Hmm, I think I prefer the deluxe one in terms of articluation, he's got the double elbow joints for a start, but I'd prefer the earth mode, yeah. The battle damaged 2-pack deluxe isnt coming in a non-battle damaged version is it?

[Peaugh]

Hmm, I think I prefer the deluxe one in terms of articluation, he's got the double elbow joints for a start, but I'd prefer the earth mode, yeah. The battle damaged 2-pack deluxe isnt coming in a non-battle damaged version is it?

Not sure. We haven't heard that it is, but by that same token we haven't heard that it *isn't*.

[Feralstorm]

No guarantees, but I kinda expect the 2-pack Prime to appear in an undamaged scheme eventually, though I think it's also an equal chance it might be in a different 2-pack (perhaps a "Prime thru the ages" pack similar in concept to the Classics 2-pack with the Movie FAB) and/or a completely different repaint scheme.

[Archatron]

I'm repainting the 2-pack Prime I just bought. ;) No more black crack. LOL

[Avon]

Yeah, I was thinking the repaint option too, helps that I prefer the meg thats in that pack to the voyager too!

Is it just pain though, or actualy moulded in to the sculpt?

[Draven]

D Banks shows it in his video review. Basically, you push a button on his back and his legs spin down into their position in robot mode automatically.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/emperorpete/Bwahahaha/1205286788276.jpg

[Peaugh]

OMG IT SPINS!!



:lol

[Peaugh]

Video review up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-US0F54pcw

[SPLIT LIP]

That spinny-transform is THE BEST THING EVER. I so want this guy. Best Op toy in the history of the entire universe.

[Brandon]

Thanks for the vid man. That spin transformation is pretty cool and it's cool that it does screw with the waist articulation. I can't wait to pick this guy up.

[Archatron]

Yeah, I was thinking the repaint option too, helps that I prefer the meg thats in that pack to the voyager too!

Is it just pain though, or actualy moulded in to the sculpt?

No its paint. I like that Megs (2pack) b etter too, More color accurate adn I want the Leader Megs most, the one out of the two pack looks great.

[Avon]

Cool, thanks, should be fairly easy to remove then.

[Archatron]

I still am getting this one though, super review and great figure.

[ssjautobot]

heres my review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnzU1elmMLs

[T16skyhopp]

nice reviews guys. cant wait for this prime.

[Peaugh]

Nice review, SSJ.

[Rodr-Evil]

He looks funny as hell.

[Glitcher]

Nice pictures, Peaugh, but not much of a 'review' I'm afraid. This is a fault you've displayed often. The whole thing lacks substance. Had this topic been without pictures, it would be forgotten entirely. Try opening with an overview of the character, then giving a description of the vehicle and robot modes separately, as well as pros and cons. Don't make a mish-mash of it all. Awarding a score for different categories of the design wouldn't go amiss either. Don't rely so heavily on pictures in future to draw attention. Read some of the reviews at TFArchive (http://www.tfarchive.com/toys/) to learn how to structure yours. Since you're the only one who gives consistent review for Animated toys, I want them to be good. Also have a look at video reviewers like Matrix Prime (http://www.youtube.com/user/MatrixPrime). You can do so much more than give scant overviews of the toys. Remember, not everyone on YT reads reviews on forums. Keep improving yourself.

[Peaugh]

Nice pictures, Peaugh, but not much of a 'review' I'm afraid. This is a fault you've displayed often. The whole thing lacks substance. Had this topic been without pictures, it would be forgotten entirely. Try opening with an overview of the character, then giving a description of the vehicle and robot modes separately, as well as pros and cons. Don't make a mish-mash of it all. Awarding a score for different categories of the design wouldn't go amiss either. Don't rely so heavily on pictures in future to draw attention. Read some of the reviews at TFArchive (http://www.tfarchive.com/toys/) to learn how to structure yours. Since you're the only one who gives consistent review for Animated toys, I want them to be good. Also have a look at video reviewers like Matrix Prime (http://www.youtube.com/user/MatrixPrime). You can do so much more than give scant overviews of the toys. Remember, not everyone on YT reads reviews on forums. Keep improving yourself.

Okay, this is starting to get completely out of hand. I'm not in this to do half-our long reviews. There are plenty of two and three part reviews all over YT. I do mine specifically as a contrast to those, so people can get a quick idea of how the figure works and what it looks like without having to sit at the computer for 20 minutes. I don't think they're any less "reviews" for being shorter in length. It was cute the first couple of times, but if you're going to keep digging up reviews that have been posted for days just to make this single point, I'm dropping you in my 'ignore' list. I do my best to answer any questions or provide more pics if anyone asks, so it's not like I'm shorting anyone on information.

[Glitcher]

Uh... does it matter when I make my post? *points* Rodr-Evil above me just posted yesterday. Why don't you chew him out, too?

I don't expect you to rewrite everything you've done. I never said that, did I? I only offered some advice because I know you'll be getting Grimlock soon and I thought you could use some help on improving your reviews. If you're going to be a brat and get defensive about it, I don't see why I - or anyone - should bother with you any more.

[nkelsch]

If you're going to be a brat and get defensive about it, I don't see why I - or anyone - should bother with you any more.

I see a brat, but it isn't Peaugh

He is doing us a service the way he wishes it to be done. If people don't want to consume his reviews then they won't. Lots of us like them just fine and find them informative and quality pictures. Leave the guy alone... when they hit general release the people who do the type of reviews you like can do their detailed or multi-paragraph format reviews the way they do it. I like the detailed Photogalleries at Seibertron as they do all the angles but I am not going to tell people who do galleries that they need to conform to that style or else they are garbage and a wasting their time contributing to the fandom.

I just can't wait to get this figure to see about kit bashing G1 trailer and full blown firetruck trailer... I think those would be wild. Thanks for the leg tip, Safety Clips be damned!

[Glitcher]

Hey, I never said it was trash and I certainly didn't say he was wasting his time. I just said there are ways I think it can be improved. Jesus Christ, I offer advice and I get nothing but snash for it. Shouldn't you people be thanking me for my help? It's always better to look for ways to improve than remain stubbornly in self-complacency. Which one of us is the brat, nkelsch?

[Shin Densetsu]

I like the reviews short and sweet. Better than watching some kid talk endlessly about a toy in a forced voice for nearly 10 minutes and talk about how awesome the toy is without even saying why. Peaugh's reviews are good.

If Peaugh was trying to be the best ever reviewer out there, and totally destroy the other reviewers in a last man standing toy reviewer match, then I can see why he would listen to your comments. The thing is, he isn't, he is just taking some time to give many of us a glimpse into what he thinks of the toy, he's not out to be the best at it, he's not looking for internet stardom by reviewing Lugnut or whomever. He is just doing this for fun. Glitcher your criticisms should be given to the big review sites with their staff reviewers, the ones with reputations for having professional reviews and whatnot. Most people reading Peaugh's reviews are thanking him for posting a review that doesn't take forever to get to the point, and has good picture clarity, not you for unnecessarily berating him in this, and other threads.

Anyways I hope this guy shows up in wave 1.

[Peaugh]

I like the reviews short and sweet. Better than watching some kid talk endlessly about a toy in a forced voice for nearly 10 minutes and talk about how awesome the toy is without even saying why. Peaugh's reviews are good.

OH MY GOD, you DO speak english!! :lol

Thanks for the support. I'm glad some people get it.

[Peaugh]

I just said there are ways I think it can be improved.

And see, I get that. I do. But you've said it before. I heard it the first time, I don't need it hammered into me 50 jillion times. And I'll likely try to do more with future reviews. My point isn't that there's no place for comments or criticism, it's that I don't need it posted over and over when I haven't even had a chance to throw a review together since the LAST time you posted it, and, like johnator, I don't need to hear it in EVERY feedback thread I've ever done.

And again, I'll probably change some stuff next time, but don't expect anything vastly different from what I've already been doing. I have a wife, a 19-month-old daughter, and a life. It takes time to set everything up, take pictures, do a video review, UPLOAD said video review and pictures, and type up a post that includes said pictures and video. I'm not a business. I'm not doing this for fame, or fortune. I buy these toys early because I want them. And I think it would be the height of disservice to hold them tightly to my chest and not share with everyone, especially here, because I love this place. But if I continue to not change how I do things after you've made your point, multple times I might add, chances are I'm not going to. I've got several people praising my YouTube videos, including some ebay sellers and even at least one Hasbro rep that I know of. Somehow, that's good enough for me.

[tamo536]

i cant stand those reviews on youtube.they just make me want to smack the little bastards doing them.

short and sweet is the best way to go.If you cant transform it dont buy it

[hutchprime]

I tried to sit through the 7 minute or whatever 'review' of the Battle Begins Megs and I was SOOOO bored. Give me transformation, a pose or two, and some of the special features in 2 or 3 minutes and I'm set.

I prefer Peaugh's stuff to most of the stuff I've seen, whether it's an 'overview' or 'review', in my opinion it's a 'better view'.

[Deviant Anomaly]

Jesus Christ, I offer advice and I get nothing but snash for it. Shouldn't you people be thanking me for my help?

Perhaps its not your advice that's the problem. Its your attitude. Sounds to me like you believe the only correct way to give a review is your way. And all I've ever known that to do is tick people off. Something you might want to work on in the future when you critique others' work.

Peaugh, you're doing just fine. Don't feel like you have to change things just because it isn't up to one person's high standards. :)

Damn it. Now I'm going to have to find Voyager Prime too. I was hoping I could wait until the official release. Should have known better though. :lol

[Soundblaster1]

Perhaps its not your advice that's the problem. Its your attitude. Sounds to me like you believe the only correct way to give a review is your way. And all I've ever known that to do is tick people off. Something you might want to work on in the future when you critique others' work.

Peaugh, you're doing just fine. Don't feel like you have to change things just because it isn't up to one person's high standards. :)


QFT. I actually prefer your reviews, Peaugh.

And DA... Dibs on Heero's! (at least until it hits $60-65 shipped... Then it's all yours :D)

[Deviant Anomaly]

And DA... Dibs on Heero's! (at least until it hits $60-65 shipped... Then it's all yours :D)

No worries. I know you mentioned bidding on his before. I'm watching, but I'm not ready to jump into the ring quite yet. :)

[Soundblaster1]

No worries. I know you mentioned bidding on his before. I'm watching, but I'm not ready to jump into the ring quite yet. :)

If you want it, go ahead. I only went for last nights because I was the only one interested (except the winner, obviously). (yes, I am hoping that putting people in front of me in line will make it cheaper when I get to the front)

[Deviant Anomaly]

If you want it, go ahead. I only went for last nights because I was the only one interested (except the winner, obviously). (yes, I am hoping that putting people in front of me in line will make it cheaper when I get to the front)

I know what you mean. Yet I'm not sure I like the white gun. It looks unfinished to me. I'm also not crazy about Heero's jacked up shipping costs. So by all means, its your's. I'll keep looking. :)

[nkelsch]

Hey, I never said it was trash and I certainly didn't say he was wasting his time. I just said there are ways I think it can be improved. Jesus Christ, I offer advice and I get nothing but snash for it. Shouldn't you people be thanking me for my help? It's always better to look for ways to improve than remain stubbornly in self-complacency. Which one of us is the brat, nkelsch?

Your 'suggestions' on how to 'improve' are not seen as 'better' by everyone... Just you. That is the problem, what yous ee as a fault for not conforming your your position, I see as a valuable variety that contributes more to the community.

Know what is great about having multiple reviews done in different ways focusing on different points? We can then get multiple opinions opposed to 8 reviews done in the exact same way with the exact same review.

I like Peaugh's reviews and I will enjoy BWTF and TFARCHIVE Reviews when they happen too. I am EXTREMELY HAPPY when they are different because then I can get perspective and make my own judgement.

[T16skyhopp]

as far as video reviews go i enjoy peaughs the best. he is clear and concise and shows everything ont he toy id want to see at this early of a stage. i love long written reviews and such too, thats why i hang around the feedback boards.

[Peaugh]

Also guys, I certainly appreciate the support, and I'm glad you enjoy the reviews, but can we try not to turn this into a fight? I've gotten in the middle of more than I care to the past couple of weeks over these toys. It's just not worth it. Glitcher's entitled to his opinion, and I appreciate his point of view, I'm just tired of hearing it over and over when I haven't even had a chance to implement it yet. Am I going to change how I do my reviews? No, not much, but he's got some decent advice if you look past the attitude in which it's presented.

[alecgates15]

I agree with SB1, I prefer your reviews. Your camera actually stays in place so we can see what you are reviewing. Keep up the good work. :thumb

[KA]

I buy these toys early because I want them. And I think it would be the height of disservice to hold them tightly to my chest and not share with everyone, especially here, because I love this place.

i love you maaaaaaaaaaaaaan

heres to hoping you dont get bogged down by teh internetz drama, and to shin keeping up the noobspeak til the toys officially come out...and beyond!

[Vangelus]

Peaugh, your reviews are excellent as succinct videos showing what the toys do. :D

There are more than enough reviewers out there that clip the 8-10 minute mark, and while I say more power to them, it's nice to see shorter styles around as well. Nothing wrong with having a range out there.

On-topic, I'm starting to cave on this figure now that it's potentially going below the $80 mark. ;_;

[Ktulu]

There are more than enough reviewers out there that clip the 8-10 minute mark,

That's me :( It's just not possible for me to do shorties, I blab on forever

Peaugh, you do a nice job, you have my support!

[Vangelus]

That's me :( It's just not possible for me to do shorties, I blab on forever

You should see my first attempts at reviewing that I never released- I went in aiming for 7 minutes tops and cleared 15 minutes after editing. :cry

[Ktulu]

All my first few were multi-part videos, 20 minutes or more :(

I'm trying to kept at a 10 minute limit now. It's tough, I try to cram in every detail I can in attempt to make it as good as possible, I bet that stuff bores people though

So did you ever try again or whaaaaa

[Hound & Mirage]

killa picz

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-57133-1-1.html

[KA]

killa picz

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-57133-1-1.html

this mold is so fucking gorgeous its not even funny.

[Red leader]

I'm loving this fig my only gripe is the light bar is a bit fiddly when you place the axe and gun on his back, it seems to get in the way, apart from that I'd say near perfection!, top review BTW Peaugh.

[Animatednut]

At least this was my last big purchase, they're out by the 25th on HTS, the stores sooner.

[MegaMoonMan]

At least this was my last big purchase, they're out by the 25th on HTS, the stores sooner.

No, they won't be out in stores sooner than next Tuesday. If that was going to happen, they would be popping up already.

Online only for now, sorry.

[Shin Densetsu]

this mold is so fucking gorgeous its not even funny
de fiGueerZ Bodyz iS da BweaDSh, teH MoUfhtpLeTe is De ButTeRZ

[D Banks]

Hey guys, this is a reshoot of my voyager prime with a better look at the box and bio with a good look at the Instruction Sheet.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=zRRli7VjHMc

[joopsta]

the link doesn't work.

[Boardwise]

No need to have two threads on the same subject.

[Kaz]

Just got off ebay for $55.00 shipped, awesome pictures, you inspired me to get him.

[LightningZERO]

I'm just sad that this is not in the first wave...

[TCracker]

A very straight to the point review, peaugh!:thumbs2:
I simply dig the video review and your voice! it keeps me awake and interested :D

[pscoop]

I will take the voyager Prime over the deluxe, when the time comes.

Thanks for all the animated reviews peaugh, when I spend to much on toys this summer, I will tell my wife to blame you.

[Peaugh]

I will take the voyager Prime over the deluxe, when the time comes.

Thanks for all the animated reviews peaugh, when I spend to much on toys this summer, I will tell my wife to blame you.

Man, I'm going to have so many S.O.s coming after me.... :lol

[Feralstorm]

Just got this bad boy today. (finally!)

Pros:
Looks truly excellent in robot mode
quite solid in both modes too,
The changeable faceplate is really neat, and better looking than I expected in 'mouth showing' mode. Unfortunately the head has to face stright forward for it to move all the way down.

Cons:
I'm not big on either of the weapons, and will probably just give Op the 2-pack Prime's axe when I eventually get one.
Not a fan of the spin-waist gimmick either, as it makes the waist joint a bit loose. At least it doesn't get in the way overall.
I think I'll probably have to glue down that breakaway joint in the legs sooner or later.

Neither:
I wish the animation model had the silver arm stripes this toy has. They look nice.
I'll be putting an Autobot sticker on the shoulder. Interesting that this toy doesn't appear to have a painted symbol at all.

[kenm2474]

When is Voyager Prime hitting store shelves?

[Peaugh]

August?

[kenm2474]

I couldnt wait after seeing this review so I bought him. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130210469867&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=003

[Robogeek28]

I couldnt wait after seeing this review so I bought him. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130210469867&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=003

18 available?!?:sly:

[T16skyhopp]

now that i got him in hand, the pictures with lockdown blow my mind. i cant believe lockdown is that big. wow. do want.

voyager prime is totally awesome.

[jimmynguyen41]

he is on hasbrotoys.com now as a preorder

[Paladin]

So, is the leg problem universal or was that just an unfortunate sample???

[Feralstorm]

So, is the leg problem universal or was that just an unfortunate sample???

If you're talking about the snap-off 'safety' joint at mid-thigh, It's not a problem on mine. I can see it moving around (pretty obvious that area takes a fair amount of stress when moving the legs around, which would apparently be why it was put there in the first place.) but it's never broken loose by accident on my Op.

I do wish the waist joint wasn't so loose though (related to the 'gravity-spin' stuff I'm sure.)

[jtuarus]

my waist and legs are really tight when locked down plus ive yet to have a problem with the Gspin. i really like this fig alot he is badass with the mask up and looks like the young bot he is with it down. it can look cool either way and he can do some pretty cool poses not like prowl but hey i dont think many on this board could get into some of the poses ive put prowl in.all in all id say this is in my top 5 animated figs.

[snappyjacks]

Ops is coming out in Wave 1, supposedly. Mine kept breaking loose so I glued it and its all fine now, no problems. Only problem I had with mine is the paints chipping on the lightbar area. Guess I'll try to find a red to match it but I havent yet. Awesome figure though, close tie between him and Grimlock.

[tigermask44]

Just got mine. God this toy rocks so hard...

[Vangelus]

My video-ized thoughts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD2vjetdnmo

Gravity-Spin Conversion hates me. o_o

[zephon]

I got mine loose -- and believe me, I've got loose joints! I guess it's the absence of ratcheting joints that pull his score a notch down for me. All those rivet/pin joints are eventually going to wear down.

Hips are kindda loose too. Good thing those seem to be on screw assembly (just like the knees).

Maybe the spring of mine isn't too strong but the gravity spin automorph needs some prodding on mine.

[T16skyhopp]

if you wind the legs up while the hips are facing front (which seems like it would be the correct way to do it) the legs seem to wind up too tight/far so the GSpin doesn't work properly.

peaugh helped me find the sweet spot. if you loosen his waist up, (but don't click it back and activate the gears yet) just turn the waist so it faces the right and then click it back and start to spin it up. it lines up just right so when you hit the switch the GSpin works smoothly. I also find it works better if you use the spin right after splitting the front bumper. it seems like it weighted better that way, and the spin works best. transform the rest of the legs after.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Any pics of Voyager Prime holding 2 pack Prime's axe?

[Zress Tayasu]

wonder how stupidly hard it'd be to take out the gears for the spinny thing; while it looks neat going to robot, seems like it has potential to be somewhat pesky going back, from the commentary here... and watching vangelus' earlier take for the review. XD

[len_d69]

My video-ized thoughts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD2vjetdnmo

Gravity-Spin Conversion hates me. o_o

Loved your review man. Anyway, GSpin hates me too...

[Peaugh]

wonder how stupidly hard it'd be to take out the gears for the spinny thing; while it looks neat going to robot, seems like it has potential to be somewhat pesky going back, from the commentary here... and watching vangelus' earlier take for the review. XD

It's a pain, unless you mind hammerig out several pins. You can only get the chest dismantled so far before you need to unscrew screws that you can't get to without hammering out at least 4 pins to get other pieces out of the way. I haven't bothered, it's not that big of an issue to me.

[Renidragon]

Very cool, nice transformation that, aside from the fact that his fists are attached, is almost dead on G1

Question about this. Is it G1-like, but more involved? For example, I felt like Alt. Silverstreak had a tranformation mirroring G1 Bluestreak... The way the arms are tucked under the hood, the head popping out from under the hood, windshield/roof on his back, the waist rotation, and the feet/legs causing the rear window to slide up and cover the shins... just a lot more to it. Is that the case here?

I don't want a detailed description of the transformation (I'm one of the ones who likes to figure it out when I open em ;)), but nowadays, G1 Prime has a really, REALLY simple transformation, and I kinda expect more, especially from a voyager. :) If it's dead-on G1, then even Energon Ironhide might have more involvement! :lol

[Peaugh]

Any pics of Voyager Prime holding 2 pack Prime's axe?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/Leader%20Megatron/DSCF0005.jpg

Granted, I shortened the handle a bit and painted it, but there you go.

If it's dead-on G1, then even Energon Ironhide might have more involvement! :lol

It's pretty much spot-on G1, with a couple of twists.

[Renidragon]

Well, I caved and watched the video review cause my curiosity was getting to me... I see what you mean. I wouldn't have called it dead-on G1, but definitely very close to it. That's a relief, straight G1 would have really disappointed me.

Looks sweet, I don't quite get the gravity spin thingamabobber, but I get the feeling I'm going to end up preferring to do it manually. Oh well.

[Torque]

aside from Prime's ax and his lack of Autobot symbol, is there anything bad about this guy? cause Prime is wicked lol

[zephon]

aside from Prime's ax and his lack of Autobot symbol, is there anything bad about this guy? cause Prime is wicked lol

For me?
His joints are on pins/rivets -- no ratcheting mechanism whatsoever. Sure, he's pose-able but how long can he hold a pose before his limbs get loose?

[kronos]

I just got mine today. This is by far my favorite prime to date. I mean he just looks badass. I have mine posed with the 2pack primes axe!

[Ramrider]

Oh my WORD, he's cool. I just got my first Ani fig today (courtesy of Red Leader - thanks Andy, that was lightning fast! :D), and I can't stop playing with him! I'm still kind of undecided on the gravity spin feature; maybe I haven't got the hang of it yet, but it doesn't seem to quite work for me. (Actually may have just now got it sussed. :)). And yeah, I've noticed the loose thigh bit as well (it popped off first time I tried to transform it - though I think it was largely because I was doing it without instructions or knowing what I was doing :p).

I can deal with the fact that he's not 100% show accurate quite happily - I actually really like the water pistol and humungous axe, and the fact that they both store in robot mode, and have a function in truck mode. I like the look of the Deluxe, but the weird axe blade sticking up is the bit that throws me. None of that here.

Love the style, love the articulation, and love the surprising complexity of it. :thumb

[EDIT] Now I've got the hang of getting the G-Spin to work everytime, I'm no longer undecided on that little matter. It kicks arse, it's a really nice touch. Skyhopper's post from the previous page really helps get it right:

if you loosen his waist up, (but don't click it back and activate the gears yet) just turn the waist so it faces the right and then click it back and start to spin it up. it lines up just right so when you hit the switch the GSpin works smoothly. I also find it works better if you use the spin right after splitting the front bumper. it seems like it weighted better that way, and the spin works best. transform the rest of the legs after.
However as an add-on, I find it's best to hold down the release switch while you're winding the legs up for truck mode.

[Switchblade]

Found this guy at Target tonight, only one in the store. I'm not sure he's my favorite Animated figure, but I really like him. My only really big complaint is that his accessories kinda suck. The water cannon is okay, but the ginormous ax just looks like poo. I also find that I prefer his vehicle mode without them, too.

But that said, his bot mode looks great and is highly poseable, especially with those hidden joints in the shoulders. The spin down gimmick is fun, although I'm still not entirely sure how best to wind it back up. In all, i think he's a fantastic figure and I'm happy to have added him to my collection.

[Smasher]

My video-ized thoughts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD2vjetdnmo

Gravity-Spin Conversion hates me. o_o

The faux crossed arm pose is cool.

[JOHNDILLINGA]

After seeing how he stacks up compaired to the other figures im glad i passed on this version, cause acording to the character hight/scale sheet aint Bulkhead the biggest of the group?
And friggin BB is almost a Voyager... sheesh I seriously hope they come out with a deluxe or smaller BB.

And I think Lockdown is the same hight as Ratchet in the show, not as PRime as was mentioned...

I will deffinatly stay with the Deluxe version.

Good review though...

[Peaugh]

And I think Lockdown is the same hight as Ratchet in the show, not as PRime as was mentioned...



Actually, IIRC, Deluxe Ratchet and Deluxe Lockdown are pretty much show accurate, scale-wise.

[My03Tundra]

Even though he'll be coming out to ALL stores soon enough (and Target is making shelf space here for the upcoming Animated figures) I'm tempted to get another one on eBay. He just looks right as a Prime and I prefer him without the firetruck kibble with the exception of his gun. The axe sucks though, and I can't see spending another $20 just to get a decent weapon for him.

[microclone]

just got him. very nice, his left shoulder swings in and out a bit too freely, thats my only gripe. i like the matt overall finish. the vehicle mode is nice, theres lots of locking tabs all over the place, and they all lock very snugly, a pity that the pins/rivets couldnt be quite as well finalised as the locking tabs were positioned/sculpted. a more polished looking toy than the delux cybertron toy (i dont have delux earth) and recommended! axe is rather crappy though. but works well enough as a filler for teh back of the vehicle.

[SPLIT LIP]

I reallly wish they included a proper axe for him, even if it was just like with Two-Pack where it sits on his vehicle mode. That and ditch the mouthplate and give him a real face like Deluxe Cyb Mode Prime. still, I'll get him and just mod the face.

[Shin Densetsu]

Its possible that the axe it comes with will be used later in the show. Its happened before, weapons on toys that did not show up til later on.

I'm glad he has a different axe, makes it stand apart more from the deluxe. I like how the 3 primes all have different axes.

[Razerwire]

Picked him up today. Simply a great figure to own.

[col]

Here's my question to those who already own Voyager Prime: how high up the axe handle can Optimus hold his axe? Is it restricted to the bottom part of it, or is it possible to get his hand up to the blade?

[T16skyhopp]

his hand can go farther up. its snug but you can do it.

[madman1366]

Ok, I don't think I realized at first there was so much gear driven mechanisms throughout this thing and I think I totally blew them out.

He just flops wildly around on his waist. Can I still fix this or do I have to get another?


I do think it's kinda neat that you can peg the axe to his back. Gives him that more filled out look.

[T16skyhopp]

when the waist is down the gears deactivate. its not broken. there is a black disc on the hip peice that can click into the upper body to stable the waist articulation in robot mode.

[eriku]

I'd prefer just regular articulation at the waist. Is there a way to dismantle the gear mechanism? Would he just spin freely if the gears were removed? Not sure why I don't like action features. I didn't care for them as a kid, either. Not even He-Man's power punch.

[SPLIT LIP]

I'd prefer just regular articulation at the waist. Is there a way to dismantle the gear mechanism? Would he just spin freely if the gears were removed? Not sure why I don't like action features. I didn't care for them as a kid, either. Not even He-Man's power punch.I think you can click the waist so it doesn't activate the feature and just spins freely.

[chuckcjc]

Got one today, and I think he is fantastic. Great stuff all around.

I will echo the gripes about the pins in his shoulders. The first Prime I got had really loose shoulder pins, while the second one was very tight. So its hit or miss out of the box.

There is a large gap around his front bumper in Vehicle mode which I don't like. Also his axe... sucks. It flimsy as all hell, and has no pins holding the folding parts together.

Love his faceplate. Split Lip is crazy, the faceplate is awesome!! Love that he can lower it too, because its nice to have that option. The head mold is fantastic, with nice deep panel line grooves. Same goes for his hands. Very nice molding.

[SPLIT LIP]

It's not that I don't like the faceplate, it's just that the gimmick sacrifices the face for it. He has a big silver plate where the chinstrap should be and the chinstrap in in his neck. Fail.

[Bumblebee78]

I like this toy. The axe is not that great and the face plate thing could have been handled better but everything else is pretty cool. I added one autobot symbol from reprolabel on its left shoulder and it helped how it looks.

[Shark Jumper]

So far:
Pros:
-great figure by itself
-fun transformation for the most part
-good articulation
-His face is very show accurate, they did a great job making his sad neko face 3:

Cons:
-the spinning auto morphing gimmick kinda makes waist articulation loose
-the axe/pseudo trailer falls apart easily
-the axe/pseudo trailer doesn't stay on to his back well as a jet pack with the water gun

random comment:
The water gun reminds me of FLUDD, especially as a jet pack.

[microclone]

those with voyager optimus, how loose are the shoulder joints?

ie the pin joint that allow the forward/back movement between the red block housed in the upper torso and the torso itself.

My left one is really quite floppy, right not too bad. if mine is atypical I may get another (a good excuse!).

[starkaz75]

those with voyager optimus, how loose are the shoulder joints?

ie the pin joint that allow the forward/back movement between the red block housed in the upper torso and the torso itself.

My left one is really quite floppy, right not too bad. if mine is atypical I may get another (a good excuse!).

Mine's floppy, and it's the left one as well.

[QuinJester]

Mine has a looser left shoulder (I wouldn't say "floppy" per say, but if you shake him it'll go flying) and a pretty tight right one. No problems with a loose waist on mine if you push it a little further forward after he's finished his spinnyleg transformation.

As for the gravity leg transformation, I'm not a huge fan, as it sort of only works halfheartedly (my starscream is the same way) and usually needs manual assistance.

I was surprised to note that I actually liked the unmasked face, as it gives him a bit more character and doesn't look that bad, either.

[microclone]

Mine has a looser left shoulder (I wouldn't say "floppy" per say, but if you shake him it'll go flying) and a pretty tight right one. No problems with a loose waist on mine if you push it a little further forward after he's finished his spinnyleg transformation.

As for the gravity leg transformation, I'm not a huge fan, as it sort of only works halfheartedly (my starscream is the same way) and usually needs manual assistance.

I was surprised to note that I actually liked the unmasked face, as it gives him a bit more character and doesn't look that bad, either.

heres a test, if i put the axe in his left hand and blow on it, i can blow the arm back wards, it also is rather loose at the non pin swivel joint at the red upper arm/black upper arm joint closest to the elbow. it 'blows' back at both these joints!

[Shin Densetsu]

This sucks. Sounds like loose left shoulders might be a common problem!

I am tempted to buy one, especially if I see it in person...ah impatience~!

[iheartarcee]

seems almost too gimmicky..

[Demonicon]

Got me one today. I love it. I had everything else from Animated at retail before I got him, and he still hit the top spot for me despite the relatively simple transformation.

I myself don't have any of these shoulder issues that are going around. Mine are nice and tight. I also have mastered the auto-transformation and can reset it the first time, every time now. Just takes a bit of studying. It's so super fun.

As for waist problems, his waist *does* lock in nice and tight with no gimmick hinderence. The bottom most black area (like a ring) that the crotch is attached to has a notch in it. This notch is for a blue tab thats under the grille. For those with waist problems, most likely the notch "ring" got rotated around and just needs to be put straight.

[Feralstorm]

those with voyager optimus, how loose are the shoulder joints?

ie the pin joint that allow the forward/back movement between the red block housed in the upper torso and the torso itself.

My left one is really quite floppy, right not too bad. if mine is atypical I may get another (a good excuse!).

I have two Voyager Ops. One has excellent shoulder joints, the other has loose-ish shoulders (like others said, not floppy, but very easy to move, and a bit annoying if you try to move other parts of the arms)

Unfortunately, the one with the good shoulders was an early-off-Ebay loose toy, and the loose one was picked up at Target recently.

[rattrap007]

Got you in my sights:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/BenjaminDolle/0305080306.jpg


Not the best, they were taken with my phone camera at work.

Where is the cover for your TPS Report?

[ShadowStitch]

I finally tracked down V.Prime yesterday, and I am a bit underwhelmed.

His arms are super floppy, like others reported, to the point where he can't even hold his axe up. (Viagra Prime??) I took his arms apart and tightened up all the joints I could, but since the entire arm balance relies upon one pin joint, there's not a lot you can do to make it behave without removing that pin and taking drastic measures. I haven't gotten that desperate yet.

And to further reinforce my loathing of Toy Feature Gimmicks, the automorph function (which is not really explained satisfactorily in the instructions) didn't really work all that well. Loose, spring-loaded bits always make me suspicious -- I suspected SOMETHING was supposed to be happening, but it wasn't. Even once I realized what it was INTENDED to be doing, it STILL didn't want to do it.

I ended up disassembling the whole mechanism, and undoing the gear that twisted his waist, then gluing the waist pivot straight-on, (so it would properly connect to the peg on the back of the grill-plate) and replacing the whole spring-loaded apparatus. So now upon releasing the switch on the back, his waist flips down and clicks down into place and holds poses just fine, but his arms are still incredibly floppy.

I don't really like his "Axe" at all, or the equally gimmicky (Did I mention I dislike gimmicks?) "Water Pistol." The axe doesn't look like anything from the show, and the giant-ass hole left in the middle from removing the gun? Just embarrassing. I appreciate the attempt to make the accessories blend into the vehicle mode in a meaningful way, but it isn't worth the effort when the end result is unappealing in every regard.

Plus I'm INCREASINGLY annoyed with cop-out Primes that turn into something that resembles a truck cab (Cause yeah, that's not hard to make into a robot at all) but don't have any trailers or anything to pull.

But despite all of this, he cuts an impressively animated-feeling profile in his bot mode, and I sort of like the cartoony proportions and dynamic lines of the sculpt. He will look cool posed on the shelf, but I can't reasonably imagine messing with him all that often, and he may very well end up sold, without remorse, before all is said and done.

[Shin Densetsu]

Now I wonder.....will there be, or are there already different assortment numbers for the Prime's with tighter shoulders? Some have reported finding Prime's with tight shoulders, others with loose. This sucks for all of us, especially if its a case of only being able to find out by taking it out of the box. If its part of a different assortment number, at least we can save some grief.

[Demonicon]

Alright, I'm going to explain how to operate the "Gravity Spin Conversion" since people are writing him off for his "unfunctional", "obtrusive" gimmick. It is neither, you just have to know how to operate it.

1. Make sure that the little black ring above his waist has the notch in the front. (It's supposed to be anyway) I don't know why it makes a difference, but it seems to. I went from 100% success rate with it in the front, to it getting stuck with it in a different position.

2. Push Primes legs up. The instructions have you leave them up, so I'm guessing this puts more weight on the proper area of gravity needed to get it to work. You can get it to work with the legs pulled out, but seems more reliable with them up.

3. Now, push the torso up one click, just enough to reveal that notched ring I mentioned.

4. Turn Primes upper body SLIGHTLY (so the shoulder with the "window" detail is coming toward you), holding it as straight as you can. If you push it back, this catches the gears and starts it winding up. So not yet.

5. Once he's turned slightly, push BACK slighly. Not even really push, just kind of put a gram of weight on it. If you do it too hard, the notch that the tab locks into won't meet at the same time.

6. Now while still holding him back a tiny bit, start turning him the same way you did earlier, and he'll start winding up. About halfway, i switch to turning the waist since at this point you have to hold the tab down that activates the gimmick, in order to get enough clearance to wind it up all the way.

7. Lock it in. It should feel a little springy, not super tight.

8. Push the tab down and watch the awesome.

None of this is hard or takes any amount of time or anything, I just went into enough detail here so *you* can do it.

[NGW]

Got him yesterday. Great figure, looks good. But I have a lot of the same common complaints as everyone else. His axe is just stupid, looks nothing like it does in the show (thankfully I have the axe from the 2-pack as well), the gun looks very..fake, and the whole assembly of the axe is rather..floppy and doesn't hold together well on its own, doesn't fit on his back well, and is near impossible to keep on in alt mode. And sadly I too share the problem with his shoulders being rather loose, which is a shame. No real problems with the automorph though, thankfully.

Is a shame though, what easily could have been one of the best figures in the line is, though not as bad as some of the others (deluxe Megs, and BA) hindered by some problems with loose joints.

Still solid, and displays nice. I'd put him at around 4th of the 5 voyagers I have from the line. Still better than some figures but not as good as others (Bulky, Lugs, Lockdown, Screamer).

[T16skyhopp]

if the tabs of the axe are in his arms and the part that rests between his ankles is snug, it should have no problem staying reliably on in truck mode.

[NGW]

I can't even get it to line up right to peg into his arms. Like, I had no problems at all yesterday with attaching it, but now it takes tons of fiddling to get it pegged in, and it always seems to be off on one side.

[Shin Densetsu]

Alright, I'm going to explain how to operate the "Gravity Spin Conversion" since people are writing him off for his "unfunctional", "obtrusive" gimmick. It is neither, you just have to know how to operate it.
Thanks for the heads up man, your method does indeed work. The automorph on this figure could have definitely been designed better though. Its innovative, but it can be tricky to work at times.

This figure needs ratchets. Definitely in the arms. As voyager Megatron has proven, even the biggest of absolutely huge weapons can be held in stable positions even with thin arms, by use of ratchets. Voyager Prime has none, so the biceps swivel freely under the weight of the axe, which is dissapointing.

Articulation in the arms is great, I wish the knees had more range of motion. I don't mind the axe but the lack of ratchets in the arms is very disappointing, you'll know when you try to pose it holding the axe.
I can't even get it to line up right to peg into his arms. Like, I had no problems at all yesterday with attaching it, but now it takes tons of fiddling to get it pegged in, and it always seems to be off on one side.
I had to make sure I had the shoulders all the way in and have the slots on the black hinge that is attached to the lights plugged into the shoulders. After that I was able to mount the axe correctly in truck mode.

The shoulders on mine are not loose, but the pins on the torso/chest that house the arm hinge are noticeably looser.

[Demonicon]

Thanks for the heads up man, your method does indeed work. The automorph on this figure could have definitely been designed better though. Its innovative, but it can be tricky to work at times.


No problem. Yeah, I agree. Could've been a bit simpler. While it does work fine for me, I initially had to study the thing for a good hour trying to figure out the best way to work it.

[My03Tundra]

OH MY GOD, you DO speak english!! :lol

Thanks for the support. I'm glad some people get it.

I don't generally like video reviews, but I do enjoy yours better then some of the others. I typically, for some things, like to READ reviews.

One benefit to having both a written and video review done by the same person is the written one can be used as a script and help to get your thoughts in order so you don't forget something you wanted to say. All of those years working with the AV lab at college kind of rubbed off.

Voyager Earth Mode Optimus Prime is one of my top favorites out of the entire Animated toyline. He is one of the best figures out there and a great figure for any collection or "kid at heart."

[Shin Densetsu]

I initially had to study the thing for a good hour trying to figure out the best way to work it.
It shouldn't have to be that way, for any of us. I can only imagine how kids are going to go about with that toy.

The more I try to make dynamic poses with the axe, the more I realize it just can't, its too damn heavy for its biceps. I used to wonder why there weren't that many pictures with dynamic poses with the axe for this figure, and now I know why.

[Zress Tayasu]

None of this is hard or takes any amount of time or anything, I just went into enough detail here so *you* can do it.

and my question is, how many kids do you expect are going to read that post?
I picture this gimmick becoming an unsatisfying one for hasbro's precious "target demographic" if we're ending up with posts like the above explaining how to make it work properly due to -adults- having trouble with it. wonder how many kids will break the gears in frustration and end up with the figure stuck and unable to transform all the way...

you'd think the movie line's trickier and more easily messed up figures would have taught hasbro a thing or two about gear gimmicks and transformations and thus made them try to idiotproof the design...

[QuinJester]

I can't even get it to line up right to peg into his arms. Like, I had no problems at all yesterday with attaching it, but now it takes tons of fiddling to get it pegged in, and it always seems to be off on one side.

I had that problem, until I realized I hadn't pegged his shoulders in properly. There's a REALLY tight locking peg that clicks both shoulders into place on the black plastic hinge that hides his head. The body is easy to transform without locking them in, but if you don't the axe wont lock into the body for shite.

Once you get it there though, it should be solid.

[Demonicon]

and my question is, how many kids do you expect are going to read that post?
I picture this gimmick becoming an unsatisfying one for hasbro's precious "target demographic" if we're ending up with posts like the above explaining how to make it work properly due to -adults- having trouble with it. wonder how many kids will break the gears in frustration and end up with the figure stuck and unable to transform all the way...

you'd think the movie line's trickier and more easily messed up figures would have taught hasbro a thing or two about gear gimmicks and transformations and thus made them try to idiotproof the design...

I do agree with you. It's way too convoluted for children I think. While as an adult, I love the Voyager Prime. However, if I were to buy for a kid, I'd be getting the Supreme Prime, no question.

[NGW]

Alright, thanks for the tips guys, it was his shoulders being the issue after all.

Also just curious, is there any way I can tighten him up? The pin joint just seems too loose, and it takes barely anything to make his shoulders swing back and forth.

[orionpax636]

Thanks again to Peaugh and anyone else cooperating to solve the "G-spin re-set to vehicle mode" enigma. A really cool figure has now become almost flawlessly incredible now that I can transform him without a hitch. Thanks!

Just to appreciate Peaugh's vid (and otherwise reviews), I too like the no nonsense and simplicity approach; I look to videos to see how the figure will look in person and whether to buy it, still photos only do so much. Peaugh's vids do that, show off the highlights, and do so in a appreciatively clean way.

I usually look to Peaugh's vid reviews first, along with Vange1us, who does his in a hilariously different and psychotic way. Both do great work.

[NGW]

I do appreciate the style of Peaugh's reviews, the simplicity really does help give a nice overview of the figure. Vangelus' reviews are just great entertainment, he's hilarious. Also a big fan of dyansis/silverbolt, it really amazes me how much knowledge he has about a lot of the background for these characters and his videos hold my interest. Bikertrash is just an all around awesome reviewer. Robotadventures, again very entertaining. MatrixPrime is...rather arrogant, but his reviews are solid. Baltmatrix I also enjoy watching. Also watch Sean, and Optibotimus, JTMitchell. ilovemess is another great reviewer, really dig his videos.

Ok so yeah, got a fair bit off topic.

Still looking for a fix for Prime's floppy shoulders >_>

[T16skyhopp]

Still looking for a fix for Prime's floppy shoulders >_>

that would be hot.

[orionpax636]

Also just curious, is there any way I can tighten him up? The pin joint just seems too loose, and it takes barely anything to make his shoulders swing back and forth.

Which shoulder joint pin is the loose one? Is it the small pins on the main body allowing the arms to swing out from behind the chest, or the larger pin allowing the arms to rotate up and down on the black double hinge?

[Shin Densetsu]

Is it the small pins on the main body allowing the arms to swing out from behind the chest,
Those are loose on mine.

[NGW]

Same as Shin, the pin that allows the arms to swing from the chest. The other pin is perfectly fine.

[SPLIT LIP]

I got one today. He's fine as far as quality goes. Pins tight, auto-spin-cartoon-accuracy gimmick works beautifuly, no paint issues, all parts accounted for.

As far as figs go, he's awesome. I like his truck mode a lot without the trailer and the bot mode is great without the axe. Good but not great posability. Mouthplate still bothers me but not as much as I thought. Design is perfection, he looks almost exactly like the show.

My only negatives:

Axe/trailer thing is horrid and useless and completely forgettable.

Posability feels like a step backwards from Deluxe Prime.

Very tight fists. He can't hold much.


On a side note, I found that the waist clips and still rotates. A lot of people have complained about this despite numerous people explaining it.

I like Voyager Prime a lot. Can't say if I'd recommend him over Deluxe Prime but he's still very good.

[Team Jetfire]

Got mine the other day and think that he is the Bee's knees.

I just need to figure out the spinning leg transformation...

[T16skyhopp]

Those are loose on mine.

same

[tigermask44]

Where is the cover for your TPS Report?


I LOLED!!!

[Shin Densetsu]

On a side note, I found that the waist clips and still rotates. A lot of people have complained about this despite numerous people explaining it.
Mine dislodges far too easily. I've clipped it all the way down and pushed the torso inwards, but its just not the most secure mechanism. It mainly holds via friction with the tab, it doesn't lock into place.
Quality is varying on these voyager Primes. Mine does not have loose shoulders, but loose pin joints connecting the torso to the shoulders, and the easily dislodged securing mechanism that I described above.

[Shin Densetsu]

no double post!

[Mechabreaker]

Alright, I'm going to explain how to operate the "Gravity Spin Conversion" since people are writing him off for his "unfunctional", "obtrusive" gimmick. It is neither, you just have to know how to operate it.

1. Make sure that the little black ring above his waist has the notch in the front. (It's supposed to be anyway) I don't know why it makes a difference, but it seems to. I went from 100% success rate with it in the front, to it getting stuck with it in a different position.

2. Push Primes legs up. The instructions have you leave them up, so I'm guessing this puts more weight on the proper area of gravity needed to get it to work. You can get it to work with the legs pulled out, but seems more reliable with them up.

3. Now, push the torso up one click, just enough to reveal that notched ring I mentioned.

4. Turn Primes upper body SLIGHTLY (so the shoulder with the "window" detail is coming toward you), holding it as straight as you can. If you push it back, this catches the gears and starts it winding up. So not yet.

5. Once he's turned slightly, push BACK slighly. Not even really push, just kind of put a gram of weight on it. If you do it too hard, the notch that the tab locks into won't meet at the same time.

6. Now while still holding him back a tiny bit, start turning him the same way you did earlier, and he'll start winding up. About halfway, i switch to turning the waist since at this point you have to hold the tab down that activates the gimmick, in order to get enough clearance to wind it up all the way.

7. Lock it in. It should feel a little springy, not super tight.

8. Push the tab down and watch the awesome.

None of this is hard or takes any amount of time or anything, I just went into enough detail here so *you* can do it.

I tried following this-and I just can't do it. Every time, when his waist gets to the tab, I need to click it back down i click so it will fit, and when I activate the gimmick, the tab blacks it from spinning down.

[Liege Prime]

I finally got one. He is a little loose in the shoulder joints but honestly it's no big deal. His waist does click down, and can still rotate. I honestly only have two very small compaints: terrible axe/trailer thing, and the fact that his cheaper counterparts can strike more interesting poses.

Those gripes are pretty minor to me, thanks to his positives, which he has so many that I would still recommend him over his deluxe versions.

First for the positives, I have to say he was surprisingly big to me. Yeah, I've seen pictures, but for some reason its different in person. In package, he looks tiny- you could fit four of him in truck mode in the package. However, once you transform him and stand him next to the others, you see just how big his bot mode really is. I'm not talking necessarily height though. He is both taller and girthier then Grimlock, and far thicker then Starscream. He even makes Voyager Prime from Classics look meager in stature. He just has a great presence.

He is pretty posable, having some crazy amount of joints in his arms, and pretty average joints for his legs, and of course waist rotation.

Well, there are some other things but to sum it up, I think he is easily worth $20, and probably second to Grimlock as my overall favorite TFA toy so far.

[Mechabreaker]

BTW, am I the only one who likes using Cybertron mode Prime's axe more than the 2 pack's???

[NGW]

Probably.....I've not really seen the cybertron mode's axe in person, but I just plain prefer the two-pack's. It is much more accuratem and is a really nice size, it is like it was made for him, IMO.

[Soundwave.ca]

Got mine last weekend and I must say I was pretty unimpressed. Good vehicle mode but his bot mode has too much of that kiddy/preschool/my first Transformers feel to it. Like it's not a bad toy overall and I really cant explain it for the life of me but for some reason his robot mode just feels dubbed down. Like many of the other Voyagers in Animated he just seems to simple and "kiddy* (need a better word but that's the best I can come up with right now) then the deluxes and leaders I've picked up. Again dont know why but he's just not as fun or as good looking as his deluxe size counterparts.

Anyway like I said it's not like he's a bad toy, just to me he's got to much of that "My First TF" look and feel to him which kinda killed this toy for me. And having got the the deluxe versions of Prime a wile ago they are definitely much better incarnations of this character and more then suffice for all your Animated Prime goodness. But if your really big into Animated you will like this toy regardless, but if your more discretionary in your spending the deluxe ones are they way to go no question.

[Brandon]

Snagged him over the weekend and I like him. I do think that I would have been cool if he didn't have the face plate gimmick as I've gotten used to Prime's face. The spin thingy is kind of cool, could have been implemented a bit better like other's have said. Not digging the ax though. It's too big and weighs down the arms. Right now I'm just using the deluxe Prime's ax until I break down and maybe get the two pack.

[SPLIT LIP]

BTW, am I the only one who likes using Cybertron mode Prime's axe more than the 2 pack's???

Nope. :D

[My03Tundra]

I tried using the Voyager Prime's axe, but it seemed a bit small. I like the 2-pack's axe better and plan on modifying mine so it can even be stored in vehicle mode.

[Shin Densetsu]

Again dont know why but he's just not as fun or as good looking as his deluxe size counterparts.
For me, he has less range of motion, and the lack of ratchets hurts him especially in the bicep department. Kiss most dynamic axe slashing poses goodbye, as his biceps will swivel downwards most of the time, under the weight(of the trailer axe, the battle begins axe does work better since its lighter). Cybertron voyager Megatron had bicep ratchets, and it wasn't until I handled voyager Prime that I realized how helpful those joints could be.

The deluxes also look more refined because of all their detail at a smaller size. He can pose well, but when posing deluxe Cybertronian Prime you can definitely see a difference, while voyager Prime is easy to pose in static positions, deluxe Prime is far easier to pose in dynamic positions.

Overall, Voyager Prime could have been much better with ratchets in most joints like on the joints of Cybertron Megatron(these would have aided tremendously in stability), and no hindrance to mobility(knees cannot bend all the way back). Nonetheless, its still a fun figure to play with, and one I usually pick up when I have my hands free.

For potential buyers or collectors/fans looking forward to this figure:expect the most animation accurate Animated Prime figure, but don't expect it to be as poseable as the deluxe Primes. Also, it doesn't seem as impressive as most of the other voyagers.

[SPLIT LIP]

Am I the only one who thinks ditching the ratchet joints was a stroke of genius? Ratchets hinder a lot as they only allow the arm/leg to rotate within certain poses. Between one click of the ratchet there are several angles that could be lost. Wheras with pins (tight pins) you have everywhere in between.

There's a few simple things they could've done to increase this figure's overall quality:

1. Make the legs bend at 90 dgrees. There is no reason they 1shouldn't except for a little lump in the joint.

2. Make the highest set of elbows bend 90 degrees.

Why they didn't do this is beyond me and a major negative blow towards what could have been a great figure. Now he's just really good, but not great.

[defstar]

Ok...so in Robot mode is he suppose to spin freely at the waist...or is there a way to lock or tighten down his waist...?

[QuinJester]

He locks tightly. There's a disc in the inside of his waist joint that has a little notch on it. Make sure that notch is facing forward, then push his hips and legs down and forward until they click. They'll be tight and not at all swively. If he's spinning and clicking, then he hasn't been locked down all the way.

[defstar]

He locks tightly. There's a disc in the inside of his waist joint that has a little notch on it. Make sure that notch is facing forward, then push his hips and legs down and forward until they click. They'll be tight and not at all swively. If he's spinning and clicking, then he hasn't been locked down all the way.


Thank you...I'll give it a try once I get home...:thumb

[Shin Densetsu]

He locks tightly. There's a disc in the inside of his waist joint that has a little notch on it. Make sure that notch is facing forward, then push his hips and legs down and forward until they click. They'll be tight and not at all swively. If he's spinning and clicking, then he hasn't been locked down all the way.
Mine still gets dislodged easily

[Shin Densetsu]

He locks tightly. There's a disc in the inside of his waist joint that has a little notch on it. Make sure that notch is facing forward, then push his hips and legs down and forward until they click. They'll be tight and not at all swively. If he's spinning and clicking, then he hasn't been locked down all the way.
Mine still gets dislodged easily

[Shin Densetsu]

Am I the only one who thinks ditching the ratchet joints was a stroke of genius? Ratchets hinder a lot as they only allow the arm/leg to rotate within certain poses. Between one click of the ratchet there are several angles that could be lost. Wheras with pins (tight pins) you have everywhere in between.
The bicep swivel is a pin joint, and cannot sustain the weight of the axe at an angle, unlike Cybertron Megatron, whose bicep swivel is ratcheted and can sustain the weight of the gun without swiveling downwards unintentionally. I've always liked ratchets, Cybertron Megatron's ratchets are spaced closely, something like that would have worked. Pins might loosen over time. I like ratchets because they technically lock into place/position.

I play with my voyager Prime quite a bit and the lack of ratchets really hurt it as a figure. I'd find awesome poses for him to be in but then the bicep swivels downward immediately due to the weight of the axe.

[SPLIT LIP]

Maybe I have an axe that is made out of air but he can hold it just fine. The bicep swivel is tight and can hold pretty much anything. (weapon-wise)


Then again I think the axe he comes with is so ridiculous and useless that I just ditch it most of the time, so his biceps don't get a huge workout holding it.

[Shin Densetsu]

Maybe I have an axe that is made out of air but he can hold it just fine. The bicep swivel is tight and can hold pretty much anything. (weapon-wise)
You're just fortunate. Mine can hold but if he is holding the axe up at an angle that axe is coming down, that bicep is decent on its own, but the biceps with the axe in hands swivel freely. The gun poses no problems, and neither do the axes from the deluxe primes.

I know I am in the minority but I use the voyager's axe, it makes the voyager figure more unique and looks like a massive upgrade. Its too heavy for the biceps to handle, which is why ratcheted biceps at least would have helped immensely.

[SPLIT LIP]

I wonder how his biceps would hold if you gave him Supreme Prime's axe. :3


Aww man, I am so going to try that...

[Shin Densetsu]

I wonder how his biceps would hold if you gave him Supreme Prime's axe. :3


Aww man, I am so going to try that...
They would swivel downwards like the one on mine.

[Shin Densetsu]

I wonder how his biceps would hold if you gave him Supreme Prime's axe. :3


Aww man, I am so going to try that...
They would swivel downwards like the one on mine.

*edit the bicep joint I refer to is the swivel joint for sideways rotation, not the elbow hinges that are pin joints, which are fine on mine*

[Mechabreaker]

For the people saying their Prime's waists are tight, does yours' come dislodged easily? Cuz mine does...

[Soundwave2]

Just got this guy today and I love it. My only question is, does he come with any kind of autobot stickers? I've seen some pics where he has an autobot insignia on his arm, but looking at my box & figure, I don't see any.

[perithimus]

My primes arm joints are tight. He has no problem holding the axe at any angle. This definitely varies between figures. The waist when locked down has a little bit of play. very little. I took the autobot sticker from my encore prime and stuck it on my animated primes arm. Looks pretty awesome. sorry pic is blurry. Was taken with my camera phone in not so perfect lighting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/perithimus/prime.jpg

[Bumblebee78]

Just got this guy today and I love it. My only question is, does he come with any kind of autobot stickers? I've seen some pics where he has an autobot insignia on his arm, but looking at my box & figure, I don't see any.

He does not have an autobot insignia. The ones you see have been put by the owner of the toy. I ordered mine (autobot symbols) from reprolabels.com

[Flashpoint]

This prime is awesome, some small touches make him even better :)

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5311/picture071lr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5311/picture071lr1.64bf61727a.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=359&i=picture071lr1.jpg)

[SPLIT LIP]

I'm not sure how well smokestacks work with him, but I did just notice something about the waist.

When you click it forwartd after it spins down, you can click it a second time. This lets it spin tightly.

[loudstone]

I've found a lot of people's opinions on which Animated Prime is best, but I'm still a bit confused on the scale. Which earth mode Prime seems to be the best in scale with the other figures? I know that's kind of hard to figure out, since some are larger than they should be, and some smaller. Mostly I'm concerned with rest of the main five... though of course Bulkhead comes in multiple sizes.

[orionpax636]

I've found a lot of people's opinions on which Animated Prime is best, but I'm still a bit confused on the scale. Which earth mode Prime seems to be the best in scale with the other figures?

I've been confused about this myself, but it seems that the deluxe scale Primes are the most in scale according to the cartoon. Prime on there seems a lot smaller than prior series, and is a lot smaller than Bulkhead.

If you think about it, the deluxe ones will be the most in scale since he's slightly smaller then Sentinel Prime, and I believe Sentinel will be a deluxe too. That plus the deluxe Optimii are pretty big for deluxes anyway. When you compare him to Prowl, Grimlock and the others, it seems the most proper, though the voyager one isn't a huge stretch.

Though, I'd think that a few would be dissuaded for buying 2pack deluxe Prime as their default Prime with the battle damage. Shame too, since it's still a damn nice figure.

[My03Tundra]

As for the 2-pack prime, I'd like to see a repainted one sold individually down the line with NO battle damage and a different weapon.

[loudstone]

As for the 2-pack prime, I'd like to see a repainted one sold individually down the line with NO battle damage and a different weapon.

Why a different weapon? I thought one of the things people liked most about that figure was that he had the most show accurate axe. Or maybe you just mean something other than an axe...

What I REALLY want to see is a Prime with his firetruck/trailer. I really didn't like his truck mode when I saw the first pics, but in full firetruck form I actually think it's pretty sweet.

Way beyond my modding skills, unfortunately. :P

[SPLIT LIP]

If you think about it, the deluxe ones will be the most in scale since he's slightly smaller then Sentinel Prime, and I believe Sentinel will be a deluxe too. That plus the deluxe Optimii are pretty big for deluxes anyway. When you compare him to Prowl, Grimlock and the others, it seems the most proper, though the voyager one isn't a huge stretch.The Sentinel Deluxe is shorter than the Prime fig, though.

Prime on the show is usually depicted as tallor slightly shorter than Bulkhead, way taller than tiny Prowl, even taller than Bumblebee who's just a wee bit shorter than Prowl, and taller, but not towering over Ratchet. Also, as of Megatron rising we haven't got a good sense of how Prime is compared to Megs, because of the awful Animation as far as concerning scale was in that ep.

Though of (spoilers) A Bridge too Close, he seems significantly shorter than Meagtron, but not dwarfed, so the Voyager may work with Leader Megatron. :end spoilers.

Even Blitzwing and him match pretty close, infact, besde the dinobots and Lugnut the only one that's really "I dunno" is Starscream, who's again, not consistantly depicted as any set height. (though he is a big guy, how big varies slightly)

[loudstone]

Even Blitzwing and him match pretty close, infact, besde the dinobots and Lugnut the only one that's really "I dunno" is Starscream

Okay, to clarify, which size "him" have you been referring to? Thanks :)

[SPLIT LIP]

Okay, to clarify, which size "him" have you been referring to? Thanks :)I meant Voyager him (Optimus). :p Sorry.

[loudstone]

I meant Voyager him (Optimus). :p Sorry.

Apology accepted, good sir :)
That's sad though, I was kind of hoping that deluxe Optimus would be better, so I wouldn't have to buy both to get the 2-pack axe. :S

Any hope that Hasbro might release an upgrade pack with trailer and accurate axe? Probably not, but I can still hope, right?

[Shin Densetsu]

Me personally, I don't think the Battle Begins Prime is a good substitute for Voyager Prime. Its obvious that Battle Begins Prime is meant as a G1 homage with elements of the earth mode Prime as well. I use them as different characters. In my universe, battle begins Prime is the G1 Prime and is a mentor to Animated Prime.

As a figure, it has a greater range of motion than Voyager Prime. Voyager Prime however, is the most accurate earth mode Prime(aside the axe from the supreme), and has the mouth gimmick which I am a big fan of. As much as Voyager Prime's articulation is hindered, it is still a fun figure to play with, as I pick it up to mess around with a lot. Articulation wise it can be posed as dynamically as either of the deluxe Primes, but sculpt wise, its the most accurate earth mode Prime, and the only one with the awesome faceplate gimmick.

It is a figure worth getting but not of the best of the voyagers like one might expect. A more fool proof automorph and ratchets, as well as a more secure torso connection would have made this one of the best voyagers.

[Grimlock_13]

Wow, I've had mine for a week and thought I'd posted here...

It's not bad...not great.

The vehicle mode is...uhm...well it looks like you combined G1 and RiD Optimus' cab and threw it in a trash compactor.

The robot mode is pretty impressive, though I really don't like the whole 'standing with thrust out chest like you're a Hooter's waitress trying to pimp tips' look all three of the Animated Optimi have. The faceplate gimmick is horribly done when compared to Cybertron Optimus. The axe is ok, but the two deluxe axes are much better. The gun is just lame. The shoulder joints on mine are super floppy.

The transformation is actually quite fun, save for that ridiculous wasit spinning gimmick. I think I broke it after the first transformation which is fine by me since it's absolutely retarded and useless.

I know that all sounds mostly negative, but I'm just being brutally honest. There are worse Transformers toys out there, and Voyager Optimus does look impressive on a shelf in robot mode. I'd give it a C+

[Ktulu]

Finally found one at Target! I have the pesky loose left shoulder problem people have mentioned but otherwise I'm incredibly pleased with the toy, he looks stunning.

[SPLIT LIP]

Leave it to Remy to actually make V Prime's axe look cool (http://www.tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album=Collection%2Fact493&pic=animated_optimus23.jpg&dispsize=1000&start=18). I did this with mine. I also painted it. Not perfect, btu way beter and makes a great stand-in till I get the two-pack.

[Shin Densetsu]

So has anyone opened this sonovabitch up and found a way to tighten the biceps?

[Ktulu]

Leave it to Remy to actually make V Prime's axe look cool (http://www.tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album=Collection%2Fact493&pic=animated_optimus23.jpg&dispsize=1000&start=18). I did this with mine. I also painted it. Not perfect, btu way beter and makes a great stand-in till I get the two-pack.

Nice!

[loudstone]

Leave it to Remy to actually make V Prime's axe look cool (http://www.tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album=Collection%2Fact493&pic=animated_optimus23.jpg&dispsize=1000&start=18). I did this with mine. I also painted it. Not perfect, btu way beter and makes a great stand-in till I get the two-pack.

Dang, that does look good. But from his other pics, Voyager prime looks HUGE. Dang man, leader Bulkhead is about the same height. Grrr, darn you Hasbro. I want the combination of scale AND awesomeness! Looks like both for me :P

[My03Tundra]

Why a different weapon? I thought one of the things people liked most about that figure was that he had the most show accurate axe. Or maybe you just mean something other than an axe...

What I REALLY want to see is a Prime with his firetruck/trailer. I really didn't like his truck mode when I saw the first pics, but in full firetruck form I actually think it's pretty sweet.

Way beyond my modding skills, unfortunately. :P

I incidentally won an extra Voyager Prime off of eBay a few weeks back, and although I'm likely going to sell it, I've thought of using one of them in making a trailer. BUT, I'm not that good.

[EvaUnit13]

Am I the only one who thinks ditching the ratchet joints was a stroke of genius? Ratchets hinder a lot as they only allow the arm/leg to rotate within certain poses. Between one click of the ratchet there are several angles that could be lost. Wheras with pins (tight pins) you have everywhere in between.
Yeah, like 1 degree

I got him, even though mine didn't come with instructions and was in a pretty torn up box, he's pretty cool. The water gun squirts like 1 inch, though

[loudstone]

Yeah, like 1 degree

I got him, even though mine didn't come with instructions and was in a pretty torn up box, he's pretty cool. The water gun squirts like 1 inch, though

Ha, I didn't even realize his "water gun" actually shot water. That's real fancy. Now I'm really excited to see what Leader Megatron can do... ;)

Hmm, I'm not a MISB person (though I generally do save the boxes, but just the back part). But not having the instructions would probably drive me crazy. Er. Crazier.

[EvaUnit13]

Yeah, I was kinda bummed, I just keep the instructions just for the sake of having them, and it is Optimus, but no biggie

For transforming him back to truck, are you supposed to rotate the waist so it'll go up? If so, where is the yellow area supposed to be facing, because that influences where it ends up, right? And sometimes I rotate the waist to turn him into truck, but it doesn't go up and just makes some clicking noises

[EvaUnit13]

Yeah, I was kinda bummed, I just keep the instructions just for the sake of having them, and it is Optimus, but no biggie

For transforming him back to truck, are you supposed to rotate the waist so it'll go up? If so, where is the yellow area supposed to be facing, because that influences where it ends up, right? And sometimes I rotate the waist to turn him into truck, but it doesn't go up and just makes some clicking noises